New Cooper All Stainless

bearkilr said:
I would question if Cooper made a comparable rifle that they could maintain their current degree of accuracy. I've had a couple of Sako Finnlights, an RMR,a NULA, and five Kimbers, all were very similar accuracy wise. I have heard of some Kimbers with issues, like you say, but regardless, for the same price, there's no comparable truly lightweight hunting rifle out there.
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My cousins wasn't a light weight. It was a varmit model.
 
OP has a beautiful rifle there....love the stainless and fluting!

I have a couple of Coopers and they are awesome rifles. Great accuracy and fit and finish not matched by any other production rifle.
I'm glad to see that they are opening up some options and changed some standard twist rates on certain calibers. Shows they are listening. It's kind of refreshing to see a company that's not being driven by some of the current marketing to the masses strategies. They sell a high quality rifle that shoots and the people who own them know it.
 
Colquhoun said:
I have a couple of Coopers and they are awesome rifles. Great accuracy and fit and finish not matched by any other production rifle.
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You do realize there are other production rifles out there besides Remington and Savage, right? Cooper's fit and finish is good, but it's certainly matched and exceeded by other production rifles, just depends on how much you want to spend.
 
bearkilr said:
I would question if Cooper made a comparable rifle that they could maintain their current degree of accuracy. I've had a couple of Sako Finnlights, an RMR,a NULA, and five Kimbers, all were very similar accuracy wise. I have heard of some Kimbers with issues, like you say, but regardless, for the same price, there's no comparable truly lightweight hunting rifle out there.
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When kimber or NULA chamber's a 7mm STW That shoots 3 shots @ 300meters under a 1/2" useing a 3x10x42 power scope.....let me know about it!

Thanks!
 
This is drifting, but in a Cooper thread Savage doesn't fit in anywhere and we're not in Dakota territory either.
In my personal opinion for the price point you can't beat a Cooper for a hunting rifle.
 
For a general hunting rifle there are plenty of options that fit the bill that won't leave you as light in the pocket...
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How many offer a 1/2" or better accuracy guarantee, in every centerfire chambering, including the larger cased magnums?
 
stubblejumper said:
How many offer a 1/2" or better accuracy guarantee, in every centerfire chambering, including the larger cased magnums?
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Not knockin Cooper at all....They are, what they are...Awsome, and expensive...I would love to have one...But as Colquhoun said ''for the price point you can't beat a Cooper for a hunting rifle'' is a stretch for many...
 
My primary rifle shooting is more in the precision game thee days, whether it's shooting paper, rocks, or small critters a long ways out. I've spent lots of $$ on custom rifles and various factory rifles. There are plenty of diamonds in the rough available at your local gun store, but you might have to buy 5 to get the good one that was on the good end of 'tolerance stack up'. With my expectations from a rifle, I ask myself why I would spend twice the money for a custom than a Cooper when I get a rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA guarenteed.
Something else to consider is when banging on a farmers door asking permission to hunt coyotes, it seems much better received when you have a "normal" looking rifle vs anything that even smells of 'tactical' or is black.
So in my case a Cooper best suits my needs.....although I have a PGW on the way...LOL!!
 
I have a Cooper, and Tikkas, and Rems, and Winnies - the Cooper is by far the most well made, attention to detail, flawless in function, and accurate as they claim - right out of the box. THAT is the selling point to me. Yes, you can get a gun (pick any brand), spend hours tinkering, modding, whatever, and it may shoot as good, it may not - time is money, and tinkering costs money - lots of money - add the cost and the time and tinkering involved, and the Cooper is a good buy! As I said, these Coopers are "open the box, put on scope, break in barrel, and go shoot tiny groups"
Cooper is essentially captivating the market of hunters (like me) that dont want to drag a nice walnut stocked firearm thru the bush - its nice to have a synthetic stocked option that shoots, and options of synthetic/all weather guns.
 
bearkilr said:
Look at the stock Kimber has on their Montana. It's an excellent one, manufactured in house. Cooper could do the same.
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Why would Cooper want to take a page out of Kimber's book. I've never heard of anyone complaining about Cooper's accuracy regardless of what stock they use. The one big question mark with Kimber has always been their accuracy. Here is a direct quote from Hill Country Rifles website, "Due to inconsistent results, we no longer service Kimber rifles. This is not intended as a negative statement about Kimber products. It is merely a decision based on the inconsistent results our Accurizing service has on these rifles." You can check it out for yourself here if you like. Hill Country makes some very accurate custom rifles and offer an accurizing service for production rifles. Not Kimber, however. They do, like most, recommend McMillian as their stock of choice.
 
Nobody has complained about the 84L's accuracy. And you are comparing a rifle that is just over 5 1/2 lbs to one that is 8 1/2 lbs. Not to mention the Kimber costs about 1/2 as much as a Cooper. Like I said, you could get a Kimber, add an awesome aftermarket barrel and still come in $800 less than a B&C stocked Cooper. Or look at the Forbes 24B - by every account those things shoot awesome and also weigh around 5 1/2 lbs. They have an incredible stock too. They are also about $1000 less than Cooper.

Now a nice wood stocked Cooper - that is tough to beat, but I think they missed with this one. But hey, it's your money, and you are certainly entitled to spend it however you wish.
 
deertroy said:
There's lots of lite weight rifles out there. Lot's of heavier ones too. It's only Kimbers they are refusing to work on? Just saying.
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I didn't know there were lots of 5lb - 5 1/2lb rifles out there. I know some folks had problems with earlier Kimbers, but do some research and you will see that the 84L seems to be doing very well.
 
What a gong show of a thread.
To the OP thanks for posting and glad you hve what you wanted. Would love to see some range work on paper.

As far as the fan boys go:

Stiller Predator
HS Bottom Metal and Mag
Krieger SS Fluted
McMillan Edge HTG
Henry Rempel's time

Still came in less than a Stainless Cooper and its better than MOA. In fact I have two Leeper rifles in my possession that both shoot 1/2 MOA with hunting bullets, they both have Remington Ti stocks and cost over $1K less. And they weigh over a pound less.
 
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rem338win said:
What a gong show of a thread.
To the OP thanks for posting and glad you hve what you wanted. Would love to see some range work on paper.

As far as the fan boys go:

Stiller Predator
HS Bottom Metal and Mag
Krieger SS Fluted
McMillan Edge HTG
Henry Rempel's time

Still came in less than a Stainless Cooper and its better than MOA. In fact I have two Leeper rifles in my possession that both shoot 1/2 MOA with hunting bullets, they both has Remington Ti stocks and cost over $1K less. And they weigh over a pound less.

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Krieger barrels are terrible. :)
 
Auggggh! Thanks for the post.... I just asked Clay the other day about an M52 Excalibur, but with stainless barrel..... I had no idea the all- stainless was now available!
And fluted bolt and barrel too! Nice! Very nice!

I only have one Cooper so far, but I'm getting ready to make it 2.


What do you think of this color scheme? (Picture it with the stainless barrelled action).

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