New Cooper All Stainless
- Thread starter danc55
- Start date
- Location
- Lloydminster, Alberta
Looks like another all stainless, 280 AI, with olive/black stock just came in today.
I never said that. I said there are lots of light weight rifles. I think we have stated our opinions. Your a Kimber fan. I'm not. Nothing wrong with that. That's why there's lots of different rifles we can choose from. Some people like Ford's. Some Chevy's. Others don't like either.
All of these Coopers shoot sub 1/2 moa, in fact one shoots sub 1/4 moa.............6.5x284 Norma @ 100 meters. Most hard to beat for for accuracy. Needless to say, the quality of materials, fit and finish, bolt that rides on glass, steel clip..........and the list goes on. The only downside to the Coopers, the ones that I own, they are not nicely balanced, they are front heavy. However, there is also an advantage to the front heavy rifle and that it reduces muzzle jump = better accuracy.
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I actually prefer a front heavy rifle. I hate the balance of rifles like the the Sako Finnlights, because they don't have enough weight in the barrel. Every one of my custom rifles wore a heavier than standard barrel.
Agreed. I would choose a heavy barrel/firearm over a lightweight barrel/firearm. The heavy barrel rifles are definitley more stable on the bench, bi-pod, free stand shooting and of course they are more accurate. However, I can see the benefit to the light rifle for mountain hunters or hunters who have a physical disability walking carrying a heavy load.
The only coopers I like are the wood models. They are heavy but at least have a beautiful excuse for it. The synthetic jobs have no excuse. My brother is one of a growing legion of Canadian gunsmiths repairing Coopers. He says unbelievably heavy bolt lifts after firing and accuracy issues are the biggest complaints he gets.
- Location
- Steel Town and The Peg
All of these Coopers shoot sub 1/2 moa, in fact one shoots sub 1/4 moa.............6.5x284 Norma @ 100 meters. Most hard to beat for for accuracy. Needless to say, the quality of materials, fit and finish, bolt that rides on glass, steel clip..........and the list goes on. The only downside to the Coopers, the ones that I own, they are not nicely balanced, they are front heavy. However, there is also an advantage to the front heavy rifle and that it reduces muzzle jump = better accuracy.
Outstanding rifles... and really purdy!
"A growing legion"? You wouldn't be exaggerating a bit now would you?
As for accuracy issues, there is no doubt that it does happen on occasion, but the biggest issue that I have seen, is that some people expect every load to meet the Cooper accuracy guarantee, which is a ridiculous expectation, especially when many shooters simply aren't capable of shooting consistent 1/2 moa groups with any rifle. I have owned eight Coopers, and have fired a few more, and exactly one of those rifles would not consistently hold 1/2moa. It was averaging between 3/4moa and moa, but Cooper took care of the problem.
As for the "unbelievably heavy bolt lift", I guess that I must just be lucky, because none of my Coopers , or the Coopers that I have fired displayed this issue.
So with this "legion of Canadian gunsmiths" so busy repairing all of these supposed issues, why do you suppose that so many Cooper owners are buying more and more Cooper rifles? You would think that if buyers are experiencing so many problems, that they would buy something else, instead of buying more Coopers.
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- Location
- Lloydminster, Alberta
The only shop in Canada authorized for Warranty repair is Corlanes and its been months since they've had a Cooper there for work.
The bolt lift is very stiff after being fired and stiffer than most other bolt action rifles........hence a very strong return spring. Best to check the head of the cartridge to see if there is any evidence of pressure(ie: ejection marks, condition of primer, possible cracks in the brass/case). As for the target, it is the actual target from the rifle, however it is at only 50 and not 100 yards. Usually the targets are sub 1/4 moa., therefore at 100 yards the firearm/Cooper will meet it's objective of 1/2 moa.
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
Never heard of that issue. I believe it would have surfaced on CGN if there was any truth to it.
As far as the target goes, it's fired at an indoor range at about 50 yards IIRC and is from that rifle and load listed. Some may believe it's a 100 yard group, and that's probably Cooper's intent, as they don't state distance on the card.
