New firearm, registration problem

Thats what I'm trying to get at, I don't see anywhere in the firearms act that states you have to be a member of a gun club to own a restricted firearm.
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It says something about it somewhere, and it is official.

I used to be able to fire restricted guns here at my farm. That is no longer allowed unless you have an approved range. To fire restricted arms you have to go to a club.

The other choice is storage, not firing. If you are just going to store, then they want you to be a collector.

As far as I know, you can buy some restricted arms and let your membership lapse. You would not need to rejoin until you want to buy more.

Similarly, you might be a legitimate gun collector since 1970. If you are not on their list they will want you to be, when you want to add another restricted to your collection.
 
bogusiii said:
Where does it say...officially...that you have to be a member of a gun club to own a restricted (other than 'collector')? If it's written down and is a real rule, not just a made up requirement, then what happens if your membership in the club lapses? Is that grounds for them saying you are no longer eligible to own? Alternatively, if the logic is that the reason to own a hand gun is to shoot, and the only place where you can do that is a club (maybe that's the connection between owning a restricted and being a member of a club?), does that preclude gaps in time where you are unable or don't wish to actively shoot?
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My 2 cents worth from experience is that there is what you see written down in front of you in the "rules" and there is what is followed in practice through changing local and federal policy (not always written down). You can either be right or be happy - you can't always have both. I'd rather just go shoot and choose the fight I know I'm going to win or at least have an even chance at.
 
As I understand it, you need to be a member of a gun club in order to be able to target shoot....it doesn't specify in the Act, as far as I can see, that you need to be a member of a club in order to PURCHASE the restricted firearm. I recently purchased a restricted firearm, was asked which gunclub in belonged to, advised I was PLANNING on joining the Burlington gunclub. The purchase was OK'd and I was allowed to transport the pistol to my home for storage. I was advised that in order to TARGET SHOOT and TRANSPORT TO A RANGE in the future, I would need to become a gunclub member. That is what the law allows - the RCMP is just obtuse.
 
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I just got off the phone with the CFO from Ontario, told him the same story as my first post,he put me on hold and after a few minutes he approved the registration of the Berretta.

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Thats two restricted pistols now that Ontario had no problem approving when i stated that i was planning on joinining the Burlington Gun Club/

The officer advised me that because the pistol was being transferred from Alberta i would have talked to someone out there first, and they are strict.
 
Bond007 said:
Give you guys a update


I just got off the phone with the CFO from Ontario, told him the same story as my first post,he put me on hold and after a few minutes he approved the registration of the Berretta.

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Thats two restricted pistols now that Ontario had no problem approving when i stated that i was planning on joinining the Burlington Gun Club/

The officer advised me that because the pistol was being transferred from Alberta i would have talked to someone out there first, and they are strict.
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This seems to be an Ontario only thing. All of the western provinces you need to fax proof of club membership before they will complete the transfer of a restricted.
 
pdubois64 said:
This seems to be an Ontario only thing. All of the western provinces you need to fax proof of club membership before they will complete the transfer of a restricted.
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Yes, the OP would have been out of luck had he been in the western provinces. Not a club member, no proof of membership to fax in, no transfer. Fortunately he was in Ontario, and was able to purchase without membership.
 
Vee haf to haf ze proper documents! Papers please.

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tiriaq said:
Yes, the OP would have been out of luck had he been in the western provinces. Not a club member, no proof of membership to fax in, no transfer. Fortunately he was in Ontario, and was able to purchase without membership.
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Yeah... Sounds like Bantario is the only province that allows this. What gives? Go figure. LOL!
 
Thats two restricted pistols now that Ontario had no problem approving when i stated that i was planning on joinining the Burlington Gun Club/
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It makes sense and is very reasonable of the cfo to make this interpretation. They have done it for me in the past.

Eventually, it will be up to yourself to decide at which point you should actually join a club. The cfo will decide at which point they think you should actually join too.
 
I am currently going through the same situation and recieved a letter from the CFO that should help explain this a little better. The letter says:
Section 28(b) of the Firearms Act states
28. A chief firearms officer may approve the transfer of restricted firearm or handgun only if the chief firearms officer is satisfied
(b) that the purpose for which the individual wishes to acquire the restricted firearm or handgun is
(i) for use in target practice or a target shooting club or range that is approved under section 29, or,
(ii) to form a part of a gun collection of the individual, in the case of an individual who satisfies the criteria described in section 30

After calling the CFO I was told that proof was required that I was a member of a gun club or range, and I was required to fax them my membership to verify this. They would NOT take my word that I was a member or even accept my club membership number. As a first time buyer, this was extremely frustrating and time consuming. I hope my experience helps clear up any confusion for anyone else who is in the same situation as I am in.
 
Just remember that when you pick up the 'phone to start a transfer, you are talking to someone at the RCMP firearms centre in Miramichi.
The person you speak to there will take the information, and do the data entry. ALL restricted transfers are referred to the CFO of your province of residence for approval. It is not Miramichi that is saying yea or nay. If your CFO wants a copy of your membership, you are going to have to supply it for the transfer to proceed. If your CFO is satisfied that you are planning on joining a club, and if that is in accordance with their policies, fine. There is no uniform standard across the country.
 
Hmm, a sensible interpretation would be that you just need a RPAL and be a collector or INTEND to join a range to purchase/transfer/STATT, and have proof of range membership for an LTATT, since there is no other (by the book legal) purpose to transport restricteds on a LTATT.

That does screw drop-in ranges and shooters. Oh well, more red tape and expenses.
 
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