New generation of Leupold VX-3 range announced

a shame Phil you have not been able to get the fixed 3x20 for the canadian market ... sometimes they listen sometimes not. another Phil ....

Probably because there is low overall interest in fixed power scopes (not just Leupold but overall). We sell less than 6 fixed power Leupold scopes per year and we try to carry a wide variety of Leupold models to suit most users. The 3x20 may suit your needs however I think you are in the minority. Red dot or similar scopes tend to dominate the fixed power market these days but obviously don't work for many hunting needs. The other Phil.
 
I wish I could add more of a comparison to the discussion as it is my first hunting scope, but I do have the new 3xi in 2.5-8x36...if anyone in the lower mainland has a VX3 to which they'd like to make a direct comparison, feel free to PM me.

I had actually hoped the "i" was going to be an illuminated reticle, but as already pointed out, that is not the case, but I still bought it knowing it wasn't as I couldn't find even a used VX3 at the same price.
 
I just bought a z6i swaro instead. I know they have the VX-6 line (again, when you are in swarovski z5 pricing... its a tough sell in my mind), and I also know that the leupold products (right or wrong, I dont know, as I havent ever owned one, only tried them on others pieces) have a reputation for quality, so the barb about it being a pig was likely unfair. But for the price, it has the proverbial 'knife' at the gunfight... I just dont see many people looking at a 3-18 vx6 and a 3.5-18 BT z5 and buying the leupold for 100 bucks less. Not if they looked through the thing, anyway. And same with the vx3. Its up against 3-12, 4-16, and 4-20 midrange scopes; the Minox za5 is stellar for the price, the zeiss terra... its a furball at that price point, so to my mind it was a blunder not to build in some greater flexibility to steal some market share from vortex et al... (insert vortex bash here). Given the option for a zeiss terra with an RZ800 reticle vs a vx3... a VX4 would be alot more attractive.
 
Lots of negativity here. I for one am hoping they did something right because I haven't been able to justify buying a new Leupold for many years...too many better options at EVERY pricepoint. It's about time they started acting like they noticed.
 
Lots of negativity here. I for one am hoping they did something right because I haven't been able to justify buying a new Leupold for many years...too many better options at EVERY pricepoint. It's about time they started acting like they noticed.
I sell most mid to high end scopes currently available with a couple of rare exceptions. I can take anything from inventory (that Dianne doesn't know about) or get the manufacturers to supply me a heavily discounted scope for personal use so the sky is the limit in most cases. I have a number of different manufactures represented on my personal rifles and yet one line is way over represented than the others...Leupold. For me the overall performance and bang for the buck often results in Leupold products being used on my own guns. We sell and carry more Leupold scopes in stock than any other independent dealer in Canada so I am somewhat biased I guess. I do not get paid to say this or to even flog their merchandise it's just that many of their models work well for me and of course sell well. There are better scopes out there no doubt but for the money but rarely do I need better glass. I'm not a competitive shooter and I don't shoot at people (anymore)for a living but I am just a consumer with a pretty big budget. I also use Nightforce, Zeiss, Swarovsky, Nikon, Steiner, Bushnell, Vortex and many others so I am exposed to other good glass. Use what works for you but I rarely see the need to bad mouth something I don't sell or use. Schmidt Bender and Tangent Theta are also on my future radar. Phil.
 
Probably because there is low overall interest in fixed power scopes (not just Leupold but overall). We sell less than 6 fixed power Leupold scopes per year and we try to carry a wide variety of Leupold models to suit most users. The 3x20 may suit your needs however I think you are in the minority. Red dot or similar scopes tend to dominate the fixed power market these days but obviously don't work for many hunting needs. The other Phil.

That is kind of a surprise, since I would of thought there would be a lot more demand for scopes like the FX-1 Rimfire 4X28MM
 
That is kind of a surprise, since I would of thought there would be a lot more demand for scopes like the FX-1 Rimfire 4X28MM
If people are buying a Leupold rim fire scope they almost always go for the variable magnification. Many users put fairly high magnification scopes on rim fire guns. Phil.
 
Probably because there is low overall interest in fixed power scopes (not just Leupold but overall). We sell less than 6 fixed power Leupold scopes per year and we try to carry a wide variety of Leupold models to suit most users. The 3x20 may suit your needs however I think you are in the minority. Red dot or similar scopes tend to dominate the fixed power market these days but obviously don't work for many hunting needs. The other Phil.

Phil,thanks a lot for your explanation, make sense on the economic market not that much for me anyway lol ... but you re right i may have 30 variable scopes for 2 fixed.

Phil
 
So, why not upgrade the erector system? I know 3x is enough, most of the time and for most situations, and I'm sure someone will come on and preach how nobody needs more than a 3x fixed for hunting, but it's a pretty tough place to live out there in $700+ scope land when everyone and their dog is running 4,5 and 6x erectors. I have to say, I really like the ability to turn down the scope power at twilight and shoot in low light, and then crank the power up to 15x+ and shoot a coyote at 600yds with the same gun. But 3x is probably more in line with grandpas ol 303, so why would anybody ever need anything else?
I'm kinda confused by leupold's 'redesign' here. Smacks of lower cost of production, putting 'lipstick on a pig'. If I was a betting man, these 'new' scopes will not be as reliable as the old ones. Nothing is upgraded, everything is cheaper... When is the last time a price drop was accompanied by a superior product? And let's not forget that age old marketing ploy, adding an 'i' to the product line. They didn't even have the sense to have it mean something.

It is interesting to look at the specifications for the Leupold VX-R 4-12x and the VX-6 2.5-12x scopes, since I guess the weight increase in the VX-6 is due to the 6X magnification range, I have noticed the increased weight of 4X magnification range scopes compared to 3X magnification ranges which makes sense to stick with 3X magnification range if you want to keep the weight down
 
I've had two new production Leupolds go TU on me. One went twice - erector problems, the first time it stopped tracking correctly, click values weren't adding up. The second time the scope suddenly stopped tracking and had a significant zero shift over the course of fire. The other one had an objective lens rattle loose within a half dozen or so shots on a .338 WM.

I'll buy older Leupolds that I like for the right price, but I'm done with the new stuff until I hear some positive stories.
 
I've looked through a lot of glass and buy what I think I will use at a given range of shooting. Leupold has not been on my radar because I've found alternative/compariable glass at better prices... Well, I'm going to pick up a Leupold VX-R in a few days and see what it can do.

It will be installed on a rifle with higher recoil - so reliability will be the primary feature that I will keep in mind while I'm shooting the rifle that it will be mounted on. I like the feature of an illuminated reticle so this is what I settled on. I looked at a few comparisons of scopes in this price range and the Leupold was quite good at the end of the day - during last light situations.

In the past I've had to pass on certain hunting situations due to a loss of clarity at last light. If it stands up to the test of recoil+, holds POA and has clarity at last light - it will be a keeper. If not I may substitute it for another scope that I believe will serve the same purpose.
 
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