New Grizzly Hunting Poll Please vote.

medvedqc said:
voted when it was 60/40.

was wondering how many bc hunters are applying for Grizzly permit with the intention of not hunting?
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This is what PETA does buys tags with no intention of filling them. The thinking is less animals having been havested and the bonus is most provences use hunter money for conservation efforts a win win I guess.
 
Rally your fellow hunters and sympathetic friends to vote ( and you can vote more than once, just like the antis). No matter where you are, if you dream of maybe someday hunting a grizzly or even if you don't hunt but believe that game management should be science based, please VOTE! Just like an election, if you don't vote you have no right to criticize the results. BC has they largest population of grizzlys in the world and the harvest is very carefully managed. The anti hunting crowd would love to shut this hunt down totally rather than chipping away at it in smaller areas like they've been doing it. If we lose the grizzly hunt, black bears will probably be next, then wolves, then deer, then.......... The thin edge of the wedge....... BC has a provincial election next month. The NDP has stated that they will end "trophy" hunting for grizzlies. Think of this when you vote.
 
When I voted it was 53 for/48 against. How can the numbers go backwards (post #21)? Skewed voting system?
 
Voted. Even if you don't hunt grizz, sustainable (keyword) hunting keeps the fear of man fresh in their predatory minds and will also spare some extra measure of game for other hunts.

Ranchers in grizz country should weigh in as well.
 
8x68 said:
When I voted it was 53 for/48 against. How can the numbers go backwards (post #21)? Skewed voting system?
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Really? The numbers can swing either way, depending upon how the next batch of voters go. The trend can go in either direction. No doubt some people don't read the question; they think they are voting "for" or "against" a hunt, rather than a ban on that hunt.

53/48 works out to 101%, so...
 
medvedqc said:
voted when it was 60/40.

was wondering how many bc hunters are applying for Grizzly permit with the intention of not hunting?
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Geez thats a good point! Good catch.

Wonder if an Access to Information with a bit of statistical analysis would uncover a sharply diminishing success rate, clusters of permits going to unlikely places like Van and Vic, or anything else that we could sift from the info. That could then be used to challenge BC conservation as to why? and maybe force them to look at some controls on who gets a permit.
 
medvedqc said:
voted when it was 60/40.

was wondering how many bc hunters are applying for Grizzly permit with the intention of not hunting?
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It happens but it isn't HUNTERS doing it. The antis are also buying up guiding areas and not hunting their quota. We attended a "Stop the Grizzly hunt" protest rally at the BC legislature today just to see what was what, including speakers, organizers, passers by stopping for a looky lou and us we counted 81 people there at the rally, wow what a tidal wave of support to end the hunt. The press interviewed us for the other side of the story, my buddy is a retired biologist and was quite impressive with the statistics he threw at them.
 
Grock-co said:
This is what PETA does buys tags with no intention of filling them. The thinking is less animals having been havested and the bonus is most provences use hunter money for conservation efforts a win win I guess.
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And... The system in BC is set up exactly to address this possibility.
Yes, there may be a year (at most 2) lag time, but it WILL be caught, and it WILL be addressed.
When the number of bears is set for harvest from a given management zone, that is not what is let in the number of tags.
The number of tags takes into consideration access, previous year's harvest rate, as well as standing biomass (bear numbers).
Should that zone not realize the desired / intended harvest rate, the number of tags (LEH) issued will increase the next year to accommodate.
That will continue until the desired harvest numbers are realized.

Not that I mind the Crazies dumping funding in, but they sometimes tend to collect the very tags I desire (which pretty much sucks).
But, there's always the following year when the odds will be better, directly due to their misguided actions.

And oh, btw, we're losing in the poll again folks!

HIT IT!!

Thanks,
Nog
 
LilJoe43211 said:
It happens but it isn't HUNTERS doing it. The antis are also buying up guiding areas and not hunting their quota. We attended a "Stop the Grizzly hunt" protest rally at the BC legislature today just to see what was what, including speakers, organizers, passers by stopping for a looky lou and us we counted 81 people there at the rally, wow what a tidal wave of support to end the hunt. The press interviewed us for the other side of the story, my buddy is a retired biologist and was quite impressive with the statistics he threw at them.
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scout_289 said:
Geez thats a good point! Good catch.

Wonder if an Access to Information with a bit of statistical analysis would uncover a sharply diminishing success rate, clusters of permits going to unlikely places like Van and Vic, or anything else that we could sift from the info. That could then be used to challenge BC conservation as to why? and maybe force them to look at some controls on who gets a permit.
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someone that can buy legally a tag or can apply for LEH is a hunter ...

we discovered who is behind the antis in the Yukon ... at first it was against bear hunting from the road to finish to end all kind of huntings ... trying to close bear hunting is just the beginning like handguns prohibition or restriction ... lets start by the fewer members ..
 
Voted. We are behind 56 -44. I agree with a previous post ....leave management of wildlife and natural resources to the biologists, scientists and other experts. We've gone to far as a human race to be able to let mother nature look after herself. We manage everything from insects that harm our food supply to fish stocks in our water ways. Observe the destruction of the northern nesting areas by the exploding snow goose populations. If the grizzly populations were ever endangered in specific areas I'd vote for shutting a hunt down until populations expanded and stabilized. Nobody wants to eliminate any wildlife species.
 
jjohnwm said:
Really? The numbers can swing either way, depending upon how the next batch of voters go. The trend can go in either direction. No doubt some people don't read the question; they think they are voting "for" or "against" a hunt, rather than a ban on that hunt.

53/48 works out to 101%, so...
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That's what happens when you're tired and type at 1:30 in the morning!
 
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