new Grizzly -Moose rifle
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Well, I'm waiting patiently for a range report and more importantly, a game report.
How does the factory pad feel? It looks softer than the sako 75 pad.
So am I!!
I contacted CORLANES sporting goods in Dawson creek, BC..and talked with owner Tim Shramm...if I recall it was $350 installed and the job was exceptionally fast and well done..no marks or such..
For the factory pad it IS exceptionally soft..and the "cuts" direct the stock to resist muzzle lift..the design and materials are well done indeed...
Simms currently does NOT have a model thet will fit the new 85..aftermarket recoil pad..
I have a great..GREAT guy..doing up two bullets to evaluate.. Garry is doing
1) Nosler partition 250 grain
2) Barnes tsx TrIPLE SHOCK...in 225 grain the one I tHINK if it shoots well i will stay with...
That test is coming up soon..... donkey....are we there yet???lol
I just built a home made "shooting sled ' to get the best evaluation what the test loads are capable of and then any degredation of groups is operator error..
I will post the results my conclusions and chroney readings and photo of new shooting sled..
Steven
For the factory pad it IS exceptionally soft..and the "cuts" direct the stock to resist muzzle lift..the design and materials are well done indeed...
Simms currently does NOT have a model thet will fit the new 85..aftermarket recoil pad..
I have a great..GREAT guy..doing up two bullets to evaluate.. Garry is doing
1) Nosler partition 250 grain
2) Barnes tsx TrIPLE SHOCK...in 225 grain the one I tHINK if it shoots well i will stay with...
That test is coming up soon..... donkey....are we there yet???lol
I just built a home made "shooting sled ' to get the best evaluation what the test loads are capable of and then any degredation of groups is operator error..
I will post the results my conclusions and chroney readings and photo of new shooting sled..
Steven
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Williams Lake
Posts: 2,840
Sako .338 and bears..
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Well PHEEEEEEWWWW I FINALLY got out and shot my new ..well 3 month old Sako.338 and it was AWESOME...
First I must THANK BOO for loading some 200 grain "range bullets" rather than shell out $$$$$$$$$$ for premium bullets for range work..
regarding the 3 piece MUZZLE BRAKE....
1) sound levels..incredibly low ! PERIOD!sounded more subdued and muffled than even a .308 or .270 shooting at the range under the roof..NO one found it loud not the three other shooters NOR the local gun master of the range NOR the local gunsmith shooting instructor.It was wonderfully quiet...
2) recoil..I purposly shot the first 10 shells on the regular sand bags no shooting sled..the recoil was simmilar to my .270..maybe even LESS..
I did notice that the muzzle did not jump at all and even AFTER the shot the barrel was STILL pointed at the target..
conclusion..I will not slag those that dont like the muzzle brake..this one is quiet and workes well at reducing felt recoil...I fired 20 rounds of no problem...and the last I used my new shooting sled....sweeeeeeeet.
Steven is now ready for spring bear...
Steven
Location: Williams Lake
Posts: 2,840
Sako .338 and bears..
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Well PHEEEEEEWWWW I FINALLY got out and shot my new ..well 3 month old Sako.338 and it was AWESOME...
First I must THANK BOO for loading some 200 grain "range bullets" rather than shell out $$$$$$$$$$ for premium bullets for range work..
regarding the 3 piece MUZZLE BRAKE....
1) sound levels..incredibly low ! PERIOD!sounded more subdued and muffled than even a .308 or .270 shooting at the range under the roof..NO one found it loud not the three other shooters NOR the local gun master of the range NOR the local gunsmith shooting instructor.It was wonderfully quiet...
2) recoil..I purposly shot the first 10 shells on the regular sand bags no shooting sled..the recoil was simmilar to my .270..maybe even LESS..
I did notice that the muzzle did not jump at all and even AFTER the shot the barrel was STILL pointed at the target..
conclusion..I will not slag those that dont like the muzzle brake..this one is quiet and workes well at reducing felt recoil...I fired 20 rounds of no problem...and the last I used my new shooting sled....sweeeeeeeet.
Steven is now ready for spring bear...
Steven
northern skies
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I love that rifle. I tried a 75 at the range and it was sweet. I didn't notice that recoil pad shape, pretty cool if it works.
I love the looks of the wood/stainless one. I wonder if it looks like that in person.
Anyway, does anyone know if they make a left-handed version? That one in lefty .375H&H would make a quick sale from me, as if I need another gun!
I love the looks of the wood/stainless one. I wonder if it looks like that in person.
Anyway, does anyone know if they make a left-handed version? That one in lefty .375H&H would make a quick sale from me, as if I need another gun!
Sweeet rifle..I love wood stocks...however I consider the stainless steel and synthetic stocked rifles a "tool" as I will be using my Sako for moose and grizzly bears..both these animals involve wet habitat..so the synthetic tool approach is the best for this weapon.
I once had a custom .270 with a custom wood stock made by Mr Doug Michie...and it was beautiful ,accurate and a work of art and each time I took and got a ding on it I was upset.....unfortunatly it got stolen...
Ive seen clients come up with wood stocked $$$$$$$$$$ beauties and within a day of soaked in rain etc etc they were already shifting impact at the range..
Tims big BERTHA rifle is not S/S nor synthetic..one trip to K bay and it rusted terribly and the stock SPLIT badly..I think he has replaced it with a synthetic stock...
I find the wooden stocks very attractive and a joy to shoot but a PITA to upkeep.
Steven
I once had a custom .270 with a custom wood stock made by Mr Doug Michie...and it was beautiful ,accurate and a work of art and each time I took and got a ding on it I was upset..
...unfortunatly it got stolen...Ive seen clients come up with wood stocked $$$$$$$$$$ beauties and within a day of soaked in rain etc etc they were already shifting impact at the range..
Tims big BERTHA rifle is not S/S nor synthetic..one trip to K bay and it rusted terribly and the stock SPLIT badly..I think he has replaced it with a synthetic stock...
I find the wooden stocks very attractive and a joy to shoot but a PITA to upkeep.
Steven
Wax Wax and wax some more. Auto for the steel,table wax for the stock. I go for moose in late nov, so snow and wet weather is the norn.
Never had a problem with it shifting tho.
One of the guys that comes with us has a rem 700 stainless, syn deal in 338 mag, and he does not take care of his gun. It looks like its 30 years old with all the pitting on the barrel.
Each to there own.
Never had a problem with it shifting tho.
One of the guys that comes with us has a rem 700 stainless, syn deal in 338 mag, and he does not take care of his gun. It looks like its 30 years old with all the pitting on the barrel.
Each to there own.
lol...thats TOO sweet a shooting machine for the torture tests we put em through...I absolutley GUARANTEE you wont want to spend 10 days In K bay going coastal brown bear hunting and THEN see what your stock and metal parts look like..lol seen 6 rifles that were NOT s/s and synthetic..all = 100% had some sort of IRREPAIRABLE damage..
My twin brother takes better care of his stuff than 99% of the guys out there.. wax..wax wax prior to our coastal trip...his rifle came back a disaster..
however you do have a very very nice shooting iron ...
Steven
My twin brother takes better care of his stuff than 99% of the guys out there.. wax..wax wax prior to our coastal trip...his rifle came back a disaster..
however you do have a very very nice shooting iron ...
Steven
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Corlanes does AWESOME work. I had a Sako m75SS 300WM I bought from them 10 years ago fluted, flutes teflon coated and a muzzle brake. I just got caught up in the fad of the MB but iot does work great- but the old style is load. I'm going to have to look into the new style like Srupp's.
Sweet looking rifle thats for sure. I am waiting to find a Sako m75 GW in a "IV" action to get Corlanes to do a custom caliber for me.
Sweet looking rifle thats for sure. I am waiting to find a Sako m75 GW in a "IV" action to get Corlanes to do a custom caliber for me.
Well I have a exceptionally accurate Browning in .270 (thanks to Alberta Tactical Rifle and Rick..) so the deer ,goat, sheep is taken care of..I chose the .338 because it represented a significant step up in knock down or stopping power for BIG moose and G-bear...and I might as well use it for black bear..
All the talk about a single shot from a muzzle braked weapon would leave you permanantly deaf and bleeding from the ears..not with this muzzle brake
I chose the weapon for a specific reason and in my opinion it is far more important on a grizzly to put the bullet EXACTLY where it needs to go..point of the shoulder to imobolize the critter there.This requires ACCURATE SHOOTING with the potential for a quick accurate second shot..this muzzle brake allows me to accuartly shoot the.338 with BIG strong bullets ie 250 Nosler Partition or 225 gr. barnes TSX'S.
With very little to no muzzle jump and recoil equal to or less than a .270 and very quiet..no loud nerve shattering KABOOOOOM it is really a joy to shoot this makes it exceptionally suited for grizzly or longish shots across a small meadow for moose...
I am completely satisified with the results of the muzzle brake..it did EVERYTHING I was told it would .............PLUS the extra benifit that the slightly extra length and "weight" of the MB..HELPS THE "HANG" OF THE FRONT END..IT HOLDS PERFECTLY STILL..and like I said no muzzle lift..I will do a video on the next gun range outing showing a side view of the muzzle and the lack of any significant recoil.
Sorry for the delay in reporting back on the new SAKO..model 85.. ...
Steven
All the talk about a single shot from a muzzle braked weapon would leave you permanantly deaf and bleeding from the ears..not with this muzzle brake
I chose the weapon for a specific reason and in my opinion it is far more important on a grizzly to put the bullet EXACTLY where it needs to go..point of the shoulder to imobolize the critter there.This requires ACCURATE SHOOTING with the potential for a quick accurate second shot..this muzzle brake allows me to accuartly shoot the.338 with BIG strong bullets ie 250 Nosler Partition or 225 gr. barnes TSX'S.
With very little to no muzzle jump and recoil equal to or less than a .270 and very quiet..no loud nerve shattering KABOOOOOM it is really a joy to shoot this makes it exceptionally suited for grizzly or longish shots across a small meadow for moose...
I am completely satisified with the results of the muzzle brake..it did EVERYTHING I was told it would .............PLUS the extra benifit that the slightly extra length and "weight" of the MB..HELPS THE "HANG" OF THE FRONT END..IT HOLDS PERFECTLY STILL..and like I said no muzzle lift..I will do a video on the next gun range outing showing a side view of the muzzle and the lack of any significant recoil.
Sorry for the delay in reporting back on the new SAKO..model 85.. ...
Steven
Final update on this sweeeeeet rifle..Boo and I went to the "gun range " tonite and when the dust settled the winner was the BARNES TSX 225 GRAIN..The Sako .338 wm with the QUIET BRAKE put 2 shots in one hole and another a scant 1/2 inch away...
I think the chronograph read 2750 fps or so...
I trust BOO and his opinion and it pretty much matched what I have been thinking..this 'quiet brake" did EVERYTHING it was advertised to do..extremely quiet and hardly any recoil..BOO said..and I quote..."I could have shot this .338 ALL DAY.."
So that is the results of the tests..the verdict is in and I LOVE IT..and that is THE bullet and load i will be using for this year at least in a rifle that is way more than I expected...and the quiet brake I can truthfully say is quiet and reduces the recoil to less than my .270..rated at 16 pounds recoil ..
Hopefully Boo kept the target..and I hope he will share his words and views on the Sako, the load, and the QUIET BRAKE..
Now..Im loaded for bear..and head out in 24 hours for MY bear hunt..
Steven Rupp
I think the chronograph read 2750 fps or so...I trust BOO and his opinion and it pretty much matched what I have been thinking..this 'quiet brake" did EVERYTHING it was advertised to do..extremely quiet and hardly any recoil..BOO said..and I quote..."I could have shot this .338 ALL DAY.."
So that is the results of the tests..the verdict is in and I LOVE IT..and that is THE bullet and load i will be using for this year at least in a rifle that is way more than I expected...and the quiet brake I can truthfully say is quiet and reduces the recoil to less than my .270..rated at 16 pounds recoil ..
Hopefully Boo kept the target..and I hope he will share his words and views on the Sako, the load, and the QUIET BRAKE..
Now..Im loaded for bear..and head out in 24 hours for MY bear hunt..
Steven Rupp
Is the brake for hunting? My buddy has a .338 that he has a brake on, that he uses only at the range. When he goes hunting he unscrews the brake and puts a cap on the screws.
I suppose if it helps you then that's what is important.
I have an opinion on them...
I suppose if it helps you then that's what is important.
I have an opinion on them...
Is the brake for hunting? My buddy has a .338 that he has a brake on, that he uses only at the range. When he goes hunting he unscrews the brake and puts a cap on the screws.
I suppose if it helps you then that's what is important.
I have an opinion on them...
My brother mentioned that you get pleasure from recoil.
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only one (1) decible more in loudness...
The Decibel system is not an simple numeric scale, it is a logarithmic scale, much like the Richter scale for earthquakes. 1 more decibel IS significantly louder!
The Decibel system is not an simple numeric scale, it is a logarithmic scale, much like the Richter scale for earthquakes. 1 more decibel IS significantly louder!
hmmmm Demonical..yes I will keep it on for hunting, hmm quiet, accurate, and virtually the same or less recoil than a .270.... hmmm downside is???
Added bonus is AFTER the shot there is NO barrel lift ..the rifle stays on target for faster , better sight re-aqusition...I shoot it very very well.. that results in much more accurate shot placement and... added confidence...I am not flinching or anticipating getting smacked by the recoil makes my first critical shot placed where I want it..and much faster second shot if needed.
I understand some dont like muzzlebrakes...I appreciate that..but so far there are no downsides to this muzzlebrake rifle combination..masybe you just didnt have the RIGHT brake??And if you dont need one thats fine too, I was giving a final report on this partcular muzzlebrake on the new Sako s/s synthetic model 85 combination HIGHLY recomended with exceptional results...
Longwalker..I tried it WITH and without and it did NOT increase the sound at all...I have now shot the weapon with 7 individuals HIGHLY qualified to reneder their opinions...gun range officers and 30 year vetern shooting instructors etc etc and tonite someone I highly value his impartial views...and since you are rendering your view from Sask. and I was there..lol....no significant increase in loudness....I DO understand you? or others dont like them ...FINE...this is my report what I and others found on this model and style...it wasnt open for what those that havnt heard it to express their dislike for muzzle brakes..it was an honest report on mine and others real world experience with this muzzle brake...Garry ALSO doesnt like muzzle brakes and wouldnt use one either..it "sounded " to me like he was pleasantly surprised at the results of his testing and his experience...
Cheers
Steven
Added bonus is AFTER the shot there is NO barrel lift ..the rifle stays on target for faster , better sight re-aqusition...I shoot it very very well.. that results in much more accurate shot placement and... added confidence...I am not flinching or anticipating getting smacked by the recoil makes my first critical shot placed where I want it..and much faster second shot if needed.
I understand some dont like muzzlebrakes...I appreciate that..but so far there are no downsides to this muzzlebrake rifle combination..masybe you just didnt have the RIGHT brake??And if you dont need one thats fine too, I was giving a final report on this partcular muzzlebrake on the new Sako s/s synthetic model 85 combination HIGHLY recomended with exceptional results...
Longwalker..I tried it WITH and without and it did NOT increase the sound at all...I have now shot the weapon with 7 individuals HIGHLY qualified to reneder their opinions...gun range officers and 30 year vetern shooting instructors etc etc and tonite someone I highly value his impartial views...and since you are rendering your view from Sask. and I was there..lol....no significant increase in loudness....I DO understand you? or others dont like them ...FINE...this is my report what I and others found on this model and style...it wasnt open for what those that havnt heard it to express their dislike for muzzle brakes..it was an honest report on mine and others real world experience with this muzzle brake...Garry ALSO doesnt like muzzle brakes and wouldnt use one either..it "sounded " to me like he was pleasantly surprised at the results of his testing and his experience...
Cheers
Steven
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