Hearing loss can no doubt be accelerated by shooting - I'm another example of just that, but mine's from trap shooting with goose loads with only foam plugs. I've also hit the magic 50 years and that alone can be seen on a hearing exam and I had one less than 2 weeks ago - it showed NO worse than 5 years ago, and I've done a lot of bench shooting with big and noisy guns since. None braked, but that's academic. If this thing reduces recoil and decibels to the shooter, it's a success. There's no reason to be deafened by somebody else at a range - move away a bit and wear proper protection. The number of times I've been "audibly insulted" shooting rifles is a tiny fraction of the number of times I've had guys pull the trigger in a blind at birds without considering the fact that my ears were actually forward of the muzzle of their scatterguns, and that's one where you actually FEEL the pressure wave. Not fun. The .338 Win Mag is no doubt one hell of a chambering, and I for one wouldn't be afraid of much on this planet with a proper 250 gr bullet, probably a Nosler Partition. As for kick? Try a 300RUM with a synthetic stock, or my hunting loads in a .45-70 - makes a well stocked .338 seem fairly tame.
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Who shoots grizzlies? Not you, I guess, otherwise you woudl understand how comforting a larger rifle feels in your hands...
Jason, I guess you are someone that can't read or understand English or when someone tells you 11 times that this is NOT your past experience with muzzle brakes the post suggested many months ago this IS a 3 piece "quiet " muzzle brake..a new idea that does everything it advertises...it IS quiet.it DOES reduce recoil...that why I had it installed.
I appreciate your concern over my hearing..after 32 years of sirens at work I too look after my hearing and wear ear protection while the sirens are going.
I compared it to a NON MUZZLEBRAKED .270 and a NON MUZZLEBRAKED .308 and this was every bit as quiet..numerous knowledgeable individuals with decades of rifle experience EACH listened and didn't feel it was any louder than any other NON MUZZLEBRAKED RIFLE..
I wrote the original post to introduce this new technology...not to have folks who have never tried it or been near it explain from 1/2 way across Canada why I should cut it off and save my hearing..sheeeeeesh..
However many many years ago when I bought the FIRST civilian GPS in our region of BC I had many many knowledgeable individuals scoff and ridicule the blasphemous concept that this contraption would or could do what was advertised....
oh well.....
Thanks Gate....
Steven
You know what I have nothing against you, I will shut my mouth.
I just hope you do not get your self against a side of a hill and sqeeze it off. I would not wish it on anyone.
Anytime i see a muzzle break on a hunting rifle it brings back a memory I would not wish upon my worst enemy, and trust me, i have done a fair amount of friggin around with the end of barrels to realize what a break does and lots of different kinds.
no offence taken
Are you sure you arent dreaming about something else that is in your hand much of the time that you wish was larger? A 300 mag and a 7mm mag is plenty big enough for me. Buy a red sports car if you are underconfident. How many grizzley's have you shot?Who shoots grizzlies? Not you, I guess, otherwise you woudl understand how comforting a larger rifle feels in your hands...
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It appears as if you are thinking of parts of my anatomy. Sorry, I'm not ghey, and you will find CGN isn't a great place to pick up men.
A 30-06 with good bullets will kill a grizzly, no doubt about it. Howcver, using a bigger gun isn't a bad idea when you are dealing wiht North Americas only real dangerous game (grizzlies and polar bears)
A larger gun is especially comforting when following up a bear in close cover.
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It appears as if you are thinking of parts of my anatomy. Sorry, I'm not ghey, and you will find CGN isn't a great place to pick up men.
A 30-06 with good bullets will kill a grizzly, no doubt about it. Howcver, using a bigger gun isn't a bad idea when you are dealing wiht North Americas only real dangerous game (grizzlies and polar bears)
A larger gun is especially comforting when following up a bear in close cover.
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Thanks guys first SORRY JASON YUKE I was tired and then tired of introducing a new product that does work..I WILL stop preaching..I DO APPRECIATE THE CONCERN OVER MY HEARING , THANK YOU.
mCKILLAN If you only knew just HOW funny your provost comment was..funniest comment in 30 years of hunting..private joke...
and YES I wish "the other was bigger also "..lol..
I have guided for grizzly professionally and still have a 100% success rate something I am somewhat proud of..I have helped friends and guys on this and 3 other forums get 11 grizzlies..and have personally been in on 20 grizzly harvests..not the most but more than many??I have personally been responsible for many others saftey..both paid and by virtue of going along with those that knew nothing about just how tenacious a grizzly is..yes I could have went with a 300wm..however I chose the .338wm based on those 30 plus years around grizzlies..and IF ya havnt ever hunted or shot a grizzly please ..it is not just an oversized black bear..and you definatly do NOT want to go into the dark west coast forest after a 900 pound yes 900 HUNDRED POUND BEAR...
steven
mCKILLAN If you only knew just HOW funny your provost comment was..funniest comment in 30 years of hunting..private joke...
and YES I wish "the other was bigger also "..lol..
I have guided for grizzly professionally and still have a 100% success rate something I am somewhat proud of..I have helped friends and guys on this and 3 other forums get 11 grizzlies..and have personally been in on 20 grizzly harvests..not the most but more than many??I have personally been responsible for many others saftey..both paid and by virtue of going along with those that knew nothing about just how tenacious a grizzly is..yes I could have went with a 300wm..however I chose the .338wm based on those 30 plus years around grizzlies..and IF ya havnt ever hunted or shot a grizzly please ..it is not just an oversized black bear..and you definatly do NOT want to go into the dark west coast forest after a 900 pound yes 900 HUNDRED POUND BEAR...
steven
As Srupp says, when you hunt these:
And you may have to go in here:
It's nice to have something like this:
(incidently, the grizzly in srupps pic was taken not 500 yards from where the first grizzly in my post was taken. Srupp helped us out with info for that trip, too. But he and his buddy got the bigger bear!)
And you may have to go in here:
It's nice to have something like this:
(incidently, the grizzly in srupps pic was taken not 500 yards from where the first grizzly in my post was taken. Srupp helped us out with info for that trip, too. But he and his buddy got the bigger bear!)
The first photo is my good friend Tim and his NEW # 32 world record all time grizzly 9' 4" and over 900 pounds and that is a .458 firing 500 grain bullets and yes Lucy it IS braked also..the bear was 12 FEET from very thick dark forest..unlike downtown anywhere SASK. you DO NOT want to go in after these boyz, trust me on this..what I have seen in those 30 years what these bears are capable of ..I will save you the agony of looking over more photos..these are BIG dangerous animals that have no hesitation of trying to end your life .. kill you !!!!! I want what I KNOW will work..not what "might " work.
I am experienced in these matters...and want to come home to my familly after these hunts...and I have a ressponsibility to make a clean humane harvest in a matter I started..
If whitetail deer and pronghorn are what you normally hunt and shoot this is a totally different league..one that I take very seriously..as MY life and that of whoever is alongside me depends on absolutley stopping a dangerous animal before it decides to stop me...it requires absolute skill in shooting and bullett placement..nerves of steel..and fresh shorts on occasion ..I chose my weapon after MUCH careful consideration and am TOTALLY please with SAKO, the .338 caliber..the muzzlebrake..the BARNES tsx .225 grain bullet and the accuracy...and the load development..is this combination suitable for its intended use..HELL YA..
Great photos of your guys bear Gate..I STILL love Robs bears color..and he wasnt ALL that much smaller in size good choice..
Steven
..I will save you the agony of looking over more photos..these are BIG dangerous animals that have no hesitation of trying to end your life .. kill you !!!!! I want what I KNOW will work..not what "might " work.I am experienced in these matters...and want to come home to my familly after these hunts...and I have a ressponsibility to make a clean humane harvest in a matter I started..
If whitetail deer and pronghorn are what you normally hunt and shoot this is a totally different league..one that I take very seriously..as MY life and that of whoever is alongside me depends on absolutley stopping a dangerous animal before it decides to stop me...it requires absolute skill in shooting and bullett placement..nerves of steel..and fresh shorts on occasion ..I chose my weapon after MUCH careful consideration and am TOTALLY please with SAKO, the .338 caliber..the muzzlebrake..the BARNES tsx .225 grain bullet and the accuracy...and the load development..is this combination suitable for its intended use..HELL YA..
Great photos of your guys bear Gate..I STILL love Robs bears color..and he wasnt ALL that much smaller in size good choice..
Steven
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Gatehouse & srupp those are awesome pics of some great bears.
I understand all about carrying a bigger gun.
The reason my go-to-rifle has been a .338WM for the last 20 years is cuz of the grizzlies here in the Swan Hills. Lots of times I have hunted in country with fresh grizzly sign and the cover is thick enough that first time you would see a bear you would be at "self defense" range.
The .338WM is a great cartridge.
Remember to posts pics of any bears you guys get, eh?
I understand all about carrying a bigger gun.
The reason my go-to-rifle has been a .338WM for the last 20 years is cuz of the grizzlies here in the Swan Hills. Lots of times I have hunted in country with fresh grizzly sign and the cover is thick enough that first time you would see a bear you would be at "self defense" range.
The .338WM is a great cartridge.
Remember to posts pics of any bears you guys get, eh?
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Demonical.. SWAN HILLS..now there is a place with a reputation for agressive bears...however I didnt realize it was "close cover " hunting??I guess all my ALBERTA hunting has been open country in the southern region around Red Deer(again this Nov. for mulies and whities...with a NON muzzlebraked .270 )some very impressive bears roam that area..seen a couple of close encounters photos sent in over the years..
I leave in the AM for a 4 day black bear hunt I am "hosting " a bear rookie in an area that hold some big bears and lots of colored phase blacks..and some damn decent grizzly, seen a beautiful silvertip last fall where we are headed..
Hope to post a photo or two upon our return..will see how Bigbore 14 shoots..lol..
Steven
I leave in the AM for a 4 day black bear hunt I am "hosting " a bear rookie in an area that hold some big bears and lots of colored phase blacks..and some damn decent grizzly, seen a beautiful silvertip last fall where we are headed..
Hope to post a photo or two upon our return..will see how Bigbore 14 shoots..lol..
Steven
Endangered species
My concern was the following.
http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/03/14/alberta-suspends-grizzly-hunt/
one more example this time a mountain grizzly the SECOND OLDEST ever shot in Canada..6" razor sharp white claws...the guy with the bear is 6' 6" tall
Steven
My concern was the following.
http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/03/14/alberta-suspends-grizzly-hunt/
Its good someone of your experiance speaks up.
There's a real shortage of grizzlys in some areas of bc that used to be home to them.In places like surrey and burnaby grizzly sightings have become a rare occurance and its very rare that Foxer talks about hearing the wolf packs howling at the moon in the evenings where he lives in vancouver.The bc govmnt should really start a transplant program and open these areas back to what was once traditional prime hunting areas for them.Theres a good project for you.
I bet it would really help clean up the area of various night creatures overpopulating the lower mainland.not everyone lives in Alberta
BC has an estimated 17,000 grizzly bears compared to Albertas 500-1000
Ok tell us Todd , when was the last time you saw even one grizzly wandering the flat plains in richmond bc.It's time to bring back the endangered spirit bear to walk free in gastown
