New in the wrap Enfield value?

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What are these new in the wrap "Irish contract" rifles going for these days?
And what about rifles with some rounds through them?
I am looking to add one to my horde and would like to have a price in mind so I don't go about insulting anyone.
 
What are these new in the wrap "Irish contract" rifles going for these days?
And what about rifles with some rounds through them?
I am looking to add one to my horde and would like to have a price in mind so I don't go about insulting anyone.

Within the last few months Corwin Arms had a couple dozen No.1 and No.4 rifles that sold out in a day. He was listing rack standard No.4 rifles for $800 - $900. Brand New in Wrapper, I'd add $300 to the top price just because it has never been fired.
 
I'm not of the believe these should sell for more than any of the as-new 1950 Longbranches that are actually quite common. In essence, they are post-war made Fazakerleys with painted finish and cheap beech wood stocks. Nothing like a polished, blued, and walnut-stocked LB.

Most people don't leave them wrapped and the wrapped ones are getting hard to find.
 
I'm not of the believe these should sell for more than any of the as-new 1950 Longbranches that are actually quite common.

Any idea on price estimate for un-fired 1950 LB? I see them on EE fluctuate between 1K and 1.5K in used condition. Not many takers at 1.5K though.
 
Wrapped will always be worth more than unwrapped.

It's basically a factory new rifle. Just like some of those Port k98's.... Beauties ;)
 
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I have one that someone unwrapped to sell at a Calgary show a few years ago. Still packed full of and covered with storage grease and not a ding or even trace of a scratch anywhere. After I got up the nerve to clean it I was a little surprised to find traces of minor corrosion in a couple of spots- under the grease- so was very happy that I got around to cleaning it up. So mine is brand new and unfired (and will remain that way) and can be closely examined by a potential buyer. To me the wrapper is nothing but a means of trying to preserve the brand new rifle inside during storage while owned by the military. When he rifle enters the private market the wrapper becomes irrelevant and may lead to damage if the paper is broken and moisture can get inside. The rifle was not intended to stay in there forever! If I ever sell mine, I wouldn't ask any less than what wrapped examples are going for.

milsurpo
 
I'm not of the believe these should sell for more than any of the as-new 1950 Longbranches that are actually quite common. In essence, they are post-war made Fazakerleys with painted finish and cheap beech wood stocks. Nothing like a polished, blued, and walnut-stocked LB.

Most people don't leave them wrapped and the wrapped ones are getting hard to find.

I for the most part agree. I can see a wrapped example bring a premium but nothing like what they do. I could see $1000.00 to $1200.00 being reasonable for one in the wrap. But once unwrapped there simply is nothing special about them. No issue history, durable but cheaply finished and cheap stocks as stated. Other than a rifle in really nice shape what are you paying for? For me it's a $700.00 to $800.00 rifle once unwrapped.
 
I have one that someone unwrapped to sell at a Calgary show a few years ago. Still packed full of and covered with storage grease and not a ding or even trace of a scratch anywhere. After I got up the nerve to clean it I was a little surprised to find traces of minor corrosion in a couple of spots- under the grease- so was very happy that I got around to cleaning it up. So mine is brand new and unfired (and will remain that way) and can be closely examined by a potential buyer. To me the wrapper is nothing but a means of trying to preserve the brand new rifle inside during storage while owned by the military. When he rifle enters the private market the wrapper becomes irrelevant and may lead to damage if the paper is broken and moisture can get inside. The rifle was not intended to stay in there forever! If I ever sell mine, I wouldn't ask any less than what wrapped examples are going for.

milsurpo

THIS!!!!^^^^

Beware! If the rifle is still completely preserved in its original packaging without any signs of perforation, tearing or peering in by anyone, it might still be safe and sound in there. Rifles that have been removed from their mummification need to be carefully examined even if they are still completely packed with cosmoline! You have no idea where this rifle has been stored, under what conditions, how many people have owned it since it was built/rebuilt, if it was stored in a cold, dry basement and then brought up to show friends on a hot, humid summer day where moisture condensed on and in it before being put away. All rifles still packed with cosmoline could have seen lots of poor situations unknowingly.

I have a beautiful M1917 Eddystone Enfield that is un-issued and perfect from Nov. 1918, still packed with thick cosmoline everywhere. I was going to clean it all up, but then decided that it was too rare in that condition to do so and found another similar one that had already been cleaned and shot a little so that I could shoot it on occasion. Anyway, before I put it all back together, I decided to have a really good look at it. There seemed to be some different colouring under the cosmoline on the magazine box so I gave it a bit of a wipe and found there was actually rust under there!!!! I wiped it all down and cleaned up the box and now it has a large bare spot on the one side where the rust had eaten away the bluing. Nothing bad, no pitting, just bluing loss down to bare metal. Now it is nicely blued, but has a large silver, bare metal patch on the one side! I sourced another unissued one of the exact same type, vintage and manufacturer and greased it all up and put it in there when I put it all back together. I also, just to make absolutely sure, cleaned the bore out and heavily greased it with frog lube paste to make sure that the most important part of the rifle won't be ruined by unsuspecting moisture under the original cosmoline!!!

I have a few other rifles that are either new, unissued or as new packed in cosmoline that I have thoroughly inspected and done the bore cleaning and pasting to as well just to be sure.

I would absolutely recommend taking the time to fully inspect any rifles that you have in your collection that you think are perfectly preserved just to make absolutely sure that that is truly the case and you don't have a hidden bad situation slowly attacking your perfect babies!!!! This is especially true if you have a LOT of rifles to maintain and you don't really even think about those ones thinking that they are completely safe!!! Disposable gloves are really needed here!!! :)

Ian
 
I for the most part agree. I can see a wrapped example bring a premium but nothing like what they do. I could see $1000.00 to $1200.00 being reasonable for one in the wrap. But once unwrapped there simply is nothing special about them. No issue history, durable but cheaply finished and cheap stocks as stated. Other than a rifle in really nice shape what are you paying for? For me it's a $700.00 to $800.00 rifle once unwrapped.

I used to think this was the case, but the last sales on the EE brought north of $1400 for almost every single one. They all sold.

Few years ago I was saying M39's were worth more than the $350... many people laughed and told me there was no way.... Now look at the prices.

People made fun of my predictions that K31's would skyrocket. Those same people are now crying they didn't buy them back then.

Milsurp always goes up.

I would expect no less than $1500 for a wrapped one, but can predict that price rising too. They are mint Lee Enfields... not messed with, not ex-sporters, they are as new as you can get. :)

Moral of the story, prices always go up, those who missed the boat will always complain, those who bought them low will be very happy ;)

Enjoy the rifles for the history they have - prices aside, Never forget those who used them for our freedom.
Pcvando
 
I for the most part agree. I can see a wrapped example bring a premium but nothing like what they do. I could see $1000.00 to $1200.00 being reasonable for one in the wrap. But once unwrapped there simply is nothing special about them. No issue history, durable but cheaply finished and cheap stocks as stated. Other than a rifle in really nice shape what are you paying for? For me it's a $700.00 to $800.00 rifle once unwrapped.

Well, if lightly used examples are selling for $1500,then the days of the $700 Faz built Enfield may be over.
For the next to new rifles that is.
 
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