New IPSC BC Doubletap

I think someone walking into a range and seeing guys and gals kidding around amicably is far more important than a dress code/anti piercing/anti tattoo covenant.

If I walk into a room and see the greasiest dirtiest most tattooed biker type there and he welcomes me in I would rather be in that environment than walking into a range of guys in business suits staring intently down range intent on ignoring me and giving me the cold shoulder.

When I bring guests to a match or the range I find they seem to notice all the camaraderie between shooters and occasional good natured jeering. Watch your visitors and when you see them smile figure out what it is! Try to repeat this and you'll maybe get someone else hooked on the sport.

Most people are intimidated walking into the unknown and breaking the ice is far more important than a dress code.

Now just to dissagree with myself I don't particularly like camo at the range but see it more at the rifle range than during an IPSC match.
 
Bartledan said:
OMG! You are teh clevar! You gots a shirt where the furst leddurs spell ****!

Thats teh awesome!!!1!!1!

You walk around with a shirt that says "f**k", and a cop is gonna tap you on the shoulder, and guys are gonna come up and say "hey man, there are kids in this restaurant". Why do you think your oh-so-clever-funny-and-may-I-say-classy code for "****" is any less retarded?
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Actually maybe you should re-read my post. The shirt doesn't say "f**k". Nor did it say "C**T".

You ever thought of proof reading before you post? :confused: :runaway:


Fudd
 
ElmerFudd said:
Actually maybe you should re-read my post. The shirt doesn't say "f**k". Nor did it say "C**T".

You ever thought of proof reading before you post? :confused: :runaway:


Fudd
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We are talking about the zomnie hunter shirts here, which do indeed sport the acronym "C U N T", smarty.

As you well know, mr. "censored zombie incineration team".

What seems to have escaped you is that anyone with any level of literacy whatsoever sees the acronym at a glance.

There is a certain group of people that I refer as "too dumb to know they're dumb." What this group has in common is they think everyone is dumber than them, and, say, certainly won't notice that acronym on my clever clever T-shirt....
 
Bartledan

There is a certain group of people that I refer as "too dumb to know they're dumb."

Perfect! You could not have said it better.

Take Care

Bob
 
Bartledan said:
We are talking about the zomnie hunter shirts here, which do indeed sport the acronym "C U N T", smarty.
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You said wearing a shirt with "f**k" on it. There is a huge difference between printing that on a shirt and having an acronym. The first letters aren't highlighted and most people don't see acronyms all the time like you do.


Bartledan said:
What seems to have escaped you is that anyone with any level of literacy whatsoever sees the acronym at a glance.
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BS. Like I said, many of the people (INCLUDING women) I have seen wearing it were not bothered by the acronym even after they were told it was there on the shirt they were wearing. Others didn't see it until they were told.


Bartledan said:
There is a certain group of people that I refer as "too dumb to know they're dumb." What this group has in common is they think everyone is dumber than them, and, say, certainly won't notice that acronym on my clever clever T-shirt....
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Nice to see you had less spelling and typos in your post by the way. I was beginning to wonder if you fully understood computer keyboard use... only a few errors in that post... good job! :p


Fudd
 
ElmerFudd said:
You said wearing a shirt with "f**k" on it. There is a huge difference between printing that on a shirt and having an acronym. The first letters aren't highlighted and most people don't see acronyms all the time like you do.
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You're being deliberately obtuse, or you are an idiot. You know full well that cu*t and fu*k are both words that, when worn on a shirt, will earn you negative attention from the cops.

After reading a couple of your posts, I'm not leaning towards "deliberately obtuse".

BS. Like I said, many of the people (INCLUDING women) I have seen wearing it were not bothered by the acronym even after they were told it was there on the shirt they were wearing. Others didn't see it until they were told.
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Great. Some woman that you know doesn't find the word c*nt offensive. This proves nothing. How does your Mom feel about the "c word"? How about her Mom?

I have terrible news: normally intelligent folks can pick out acronyms with ease. Draw the appropriate conclusions about yourself, and the company you keep.

Nice to see you had less spelling and typos in your post by the way. I was beginning to wonder if you fully understood computer keyboard use... only a few errors in that post... good job! :p
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Less spelling? Less spelling errors, maybe? If you're going to criticize someone for their spelling, grammer, and typing proficiency, you might want to make shure yu can string a cupple wurds tugether yurself, bud.

You know, it just occured to me to laugh at you for trying to score points in an online forum by criticizing my typing proficiency. Wow, buddy, you win!

The best part... the VERY best part, is that in all of my previous posts, every spelling and typographical error ('teh' instead of 'the', for instance) was deliberate! Too dumb to something again, right?
 
It's very interesting that someone would spend so much energy and half of a long thread trying to defend his joy of displaying such a demeaning and insulting slogan.

If his wife, daughter, girlfriend are wearing such t-shirts are they pleased or maybe they just don't know what they are displaying. And if they do know, then that is an indication of the type of people they are or once they find out, they are too embarassed to admit they didn't know.

Age does not indicate maturity. It just indicates the amount of time others have had to put up with you.
 
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Originally Posted by maurice
Oh really......... how about the Liberal party of Canada. Granted they are dumb, but they were in power and almost took away our ability to legally enjoy and continue in this sport, with out so much of a blink of an eye. They jump on the ability to create fear and use it to retain power. They had Canadians believing that all firearms were evil, and there was no legitimate (re: IPSC) use for handguns.

The whole reason for the rule concerning the clothing has to do with exactly that, so no one would confuse this sport with paramilitary training......I seem to recall reading that somewhere in a Jeff Cooper article someone correct me if I am wrong please, or confirm that I am correct.
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Gothmog said:
I have no idea why this rule is in place, but if that is the reason, it is a poor one.

There is no valid foundation for it (as it is based on opinion only), and regardless what the Liberals did or didn't do I cannot seriously believe it was because of the way some people dress. Let's be clear on this: the Liberals want our guns gone because they do not want us to have guns. Full stop.

How do you feel about rifle owners who suggest 'if it weren't for handguns, there wouldn't be a gun problem'? Its the same kind of reasoning.
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I think that was IDPA and had a very valid purpose in the US at the time IDPA was started. Paramilitary training and militia groups were high profile and being banned. This was Ruby Ridge, Branch Davidian etc. time frame.
 
dinsdale said:
I think that was IDPA and had a very valid purpose in the US at the time IDPA was started. Paramilitary training and militia groups were high profile and being banned. This was Ruby Ridge, Branch Davidian etc. time frame.
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And times have changed since then ...
 
The more things change the more they stay the same. I have seen fellows dressed like JDF 2 wannabees at the range. Personally I could care less but to those who want to stereotype gun owners such dress is a beacon to home in to. Unfortunate but sometimes we have to understand the world we live in is not always how we would like it to be.

As for the foul language caged in some incoherant phrase, well it says more about the education and intelligence level of the wearer than the sport. Drag your knuckles on the ground if you want or have to. Most folks I know would find it offensive but more importantly sad. People should not be born than stupid.

Take Care

Bob
 
Forget the testosterone. Many people, with more cumulative votes than us, are not enthused with our sport. Mouth off, jerk off be seen on TV and we will have yet another creeping gun ban. Low profile guys - It is survival......
 
^you go hide under your bed... do you really think antis care whether your wearing a daisy patterned dress and shooting pink bb guns?

They will hate you whatever you do.
 
yup low profile has worked so well for us up till now. Oh wait no it hasn't. It's time for people to be proud of being gunowners and let people know it.
 
This article is full of the sort of attitude that progressively marginalizes us, right out of existence... The lower a profile we keep, the less say we have in the "democratically" run world that is Canada.

Fewer people know we exist and fewer consider the effect things have on us. As about 100%of rock stars know, all these things "look" bad but are great publicity and within reason any publicity is good publicity...

If having tattoos and wearing camo gets the media out to IPSC matches then it lets the public know we exist and that there's LOTS of us enjoying a legitimate sport with our handguns rather than just sitting at home fondling them in a dark room. Asking us to play it down is NOT the answer.

I used to be low profile about my firearms involvment, but with the persecution I decided to become more open. Almost without exception the news I am involved is treated with interest not revulsion. And better still I get to educate these people. Most are completely unaware that a sport like IPSC even exists let alone that it is a popular one with international participation. In this day and age of "extreme sports" whats not to like about IPSC?

As for the whole camo thing... Its a freakin' fashion statement these days. I see more fluffy teenage barbies and gender challenged peacenik wannabes wearing camo and army surplus than I see gun owners doing so.

Lets lose the dark ages sensibility and stop treating guns ownership and shooting sports like some sort of twisted perversion and be proud of who we are and what we do. Like the poster that is up on the opening page, we're all just regular people.
 
You guys are really missing the point.

Everyone seemed to think it was a good idea to put that collage of pictures out there (on the main page of this site) and where ever else in ended up.

The intent was to show that shooters are just regular people....just like everyone else. I didn't notice and offensive t's or camo in those pics.

With the exception of the Doble tap article (which I though was a bit over the top) no one is saying anything about tatoo's, long hair, piercings...

Like it or not...camo is seen a military...and when worn by a civi...para military...It's not right...but it is public perception

No one with an IQ bigger than their shoe size needs to be reminded about offensive slogans on shirts.

Neither of these fashion statements are necessary to be a proud gun owner. And if leaving them at homes helps the cause...I don't see the harm.

We'll never turn the antis to our side...it's the 50% of the population that either don't care or don't pay attention.

I'd rather they notice that we're just like them...
 
Funny most of the people wearing cammo these days are useless street bums or young hotties. In most countries the wearing of military clothing is banned.
 
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