NEW ITEM: Dominion Arms Socom 18

Got mine got into the woods today, shot fantastically. But (forgive me if I call the parts by the wrong name) the bolt fell of the op rod twice when I would #### the rifle in a certain way, it lead to a nasty stoppage. I know now not to ready the rifle that way now, but is that common for the op rod to slide out from that little notch (like how you would disassemble the rifle) and in turn let the bolt slide out? Stop me if I'm not making sense.
 
x2 along with the Blackfeather, CASM, SHG and everything else...FML hahaha

I'm planning on a Vltor

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Got mine got into the woods today, shot fantastically. But (forgive me if I call the parts by the wrong name) the bolt fell of the op rod twice when I would #### the rifle in a certain way, it lead to a nasty stoppage. I know now not to ready the rifle that way now, but is that common for the op rod to slide out from that little notch (like how you would disassemble the rifle) and in turn let the bolt slide out? Stop me if I'm not making sense.

Make sure that you don't pull the charging handle outward when you are racking the rifle. This is a known "feature" of M14-type rifles. Some people pull straight back, others pull outward. I'd practice cycling the action until this you no longer pull the op. rod roller out of the guide slot.
 
The op rod should not pop off the bolt roller under normal circumstances at all. In my opinion there's something wrong with your rifle, not your technique.
 
Ok. I am having a WTF moment here.

I shot a hundred rounds through this thing the other day and decided that I like it.

Just now I cleaned it and threw it back together and it is failing the function test.

The hammer is following the bolt forward.

I didn't change anything. The trigger group fits very tightly. The action fits the stock tight too.

Am I doing something wrong?
 
Yes. It shot ok. No problems. Now it's got the "poor man's full auto".

I've taken apart and puzzled over it over and over and I can't see what the problem is.

*EDIT*

On a whim, I tested with a mag in my removing the follower and it seems to work fine. I noted that the body of the trigger group is in contact with the rear face of the magazine body.

To me that seems to say that my trigger group is moving front to back somehow or perhaps rockin front to back, but the mag is hiding it in place.

???
 
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my buddy has the same problem as u . after a long discusion and a couple of pics on it we figured it might be the front round part of the charging handle that is hitting the barrel , we think they did not machine it back far enough or they missed a step in the machining . we will know more when he comes over and look at mine . i will keep u posted
 
Click on the little down arrow beside the number listed for Quantity. Scroll down the menu to see the number in stock.
 
Click on the little down arrow beside the number listed for Quantity. Scroll down the menu to see the number in stock.

Thanks! I see 22 SOCOMs and 48 standard rifles still available.

Does anyone know the total number of SOCOMs or standard rifles that this latest shipment began with? I've always been curious as to the total number of M305s that have been imported to Canada since Marstar first brought in large quantities around 2003-4. I hope that they continue to sell at a similar rate since we all benefit from a strong following for these rifles.
 
The problems seems to be that the catch is sliding of the face of the bolt. The empty mag will hold it back but as soon as I drop the mag the bolt is released.

I had the exact same problem with mine. I took it to Hungry's M14 clinic a couple weekends ago, and after stripping and tuning my M305 there, the hold-open still wasn't working. Like yours, it only worked with an empty mag in the weapon. With the rifle empty and the mag out, if I held pressure on the bolt stop button/latch, it would hold it the bolt open (to the rear), but as soon as I let go of the latch, the bolt slammed forward. Hungry recommended swapping out the stock bolt stop latch with an extended one. SEI (Smiths) makes one, and I think someone else makes one too. I'm planning to order one soon.

Now ironically, after the clinic, I cleaned it and re-lubed the action a bit, and after working it back and forth several times, the action finally started locking back with the hold-open latch without the mag in the rifle, without me needing to hold pressure on the latch (the way it's supposed to). Not sure what I did, but it works now. I'm thinking maybe there was a piece of tiny grit in there that wasn't letting the latch fully engage, and maybe I cleaned whatever crap was holding it back on the second cleaning. Or maybe something needed to "wear in"? :confused:
I'm going to use mine as-is for a while, but I'm still going to upgrade to the extended bolt stop/release latch when I get the chance.

Anyway, my suggestion is to check your latch for debris just for kicks, and see if it moves/pivots fully. You might luck out like I did and get it to work. Clean and re-lube the general area (where it's supposed to be lubed) to see if it gives you any joy.
If that still doesn't work, go for a better hold-open latch (a.k.a. extended bolt stop). You can see them on the Brownells or Fulton Armory sites. Not sure if anyone here carries them.

BTW, when we knocked the tack-welds off our factory flash-hiders at the M14 clinic to make them removeable, a lot of guys had a sandy grit come out of the joints under their flash-hiders when they screwed them off, so who knows what kind of junk is hidden in the crevices in the rest of the rifle? (this only applies if you haven't done a complete strip and clean since buying your rifle.)

Cheers.
 
I had the exact same problem with mine. I took it to Hungry's M14 clinic a couple weekends ago, and after stripping and tuning my M305 there, the hold-open still wasn't working. Like yours, it only worked with an empty mag in the weapon. With the rifle empty and the mag out, if I held pressure on the bolt stop button/latch, it would hold it the bolt open (to the rear), but as soon as I let go of the latch, the bolt slammed forward. Hungry recommended swapping out the stock bolt stop latch with an extended one. SEI (Smiths) makes one, and I think someone else makes one too. I'm planning to order one soon.

Now ironically, after the clinic, I cleaned it and re-lubed the action a bit, and after working it back and forth several times, the action finally started locking back with the hold-open latch without the mag in the rifle, without me needing to hold pressure on the latch (the way it's supposed to). Not sure what I did, but it works now. I'm thinking maybe there was a piece of tiny grit in there that wasn't letting the latch fully engage, and maybe I cleaned whatever crap was holding it back on the second cleaning. Or maybe something needed to "wear in"? :confused:
I'm going to use mine as-is for a while, but I'm still going to upgrade to the extended bolt stop/release latch when I get the chance.

Anyway, my suggestion is to check your latch for debris just for kicks, and see if it moves/pivots fully. You might luck out like I did and get it to work. Clean and re-lube the general area (where it's supposed to be lubed) to see if it gives you any joy.
If that still doesn't work, go for a better hold-open latch (a.k.a. extended bolt stop). You can see them on the Brownells or Fulton Armory sites. Not sure if anyone here carries them.

BTW, when we knocked the tack-welds off our factory flash-hiders at the M14 clinic to make them removeable, a lot of guys had a sandy grit come out of the joints under their flash-hiders when they screwed them off, so who knows what kind of junk is hidden in the crevices in the rest of the rifle? (this only applies if you haven't done a complete strip and clean since buying your rifle.)

Cheers.

Since these rifles might come with a great deal of thick cosmoline or grease I wouldn't be surprised if parts like the bolt catch don't always engage, especially if fired at this time of the year, as the spring might not have the pressure to push out a catch that's got cold sludge in between the pin. It's another reason to carefully clean these rifles out at first, in addition to the vitally important need to clear the chamber and bore, or avoid the unpleasant splashing of oil onto one's glasses after firing one.
 
Does anyone else get their magazine caught on the spring guide when trying to insert? Seems like the angle is off / it sticks out too far. I mean the side that is facing towards you when the rifle is upside down, not the pointed side that goes in the hole in the magazine.

I plan to get the troy battlerail and casm from m14.ca, should I just replace the spring guide? I still haven't learned how much benefit this offers.
 
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