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Mechanically the shorter the rod the less can go wrong
This is very very simplistic take. And no, it is not the case.

1) Barrel pressure varies significantly over the length of a barrel. For 556 if you drill gas block at 7 inches you will have around 17000 psi, same barrel gas block drilled at 15 inches will bleed you gas at around 8000 psi. This is very significant difference

2) The length from the gas port to the end of the barrel defines your dwell time - time or amount of gas or force which will you transfer from the barrel to your automatic system. You can't just drill a gas port anywhere you want on any length of a barrel and expect same cycle performance.

3) Shorter piston requires gas port to be closer to chamber, requires you to handle way more pressure for a longer time, so if you are doing long barrel not only you deal with way more pressure but your dwell time is way longer so you have to sustain this high pressure in the gas system for longer time.

4) Over gassed system breaks parts, creates way more violent cycle and more heat. Everything is getting worse, like even erosion of gas port increases. If you have overgassed system and you have short gas piston rod it means that you need to vent a lot of gas at a significantly higher pressure much close to the user hand etc. Short rod is not just a free solution to a problem.

5) In a short stroke system you also do not want to have hefty gas piston rod because it is a parasitic moving mass, meaning its movement and inertia does nothing good for the cycling energy but creates more stress on parts when it stops both ways, shakes the gun and barrel more when it moves and so on. In a long stroke system this mass at least adds up to the overall mass of the carrier and conserves more useful energy for the cycle.

Overall it is an issue of technical expertise, time and funding. There is not enough time and money appropriate to properly solve this problem for the given volume of the Canadian market.
 
You can't shoot with the stock folded as it gets in the way of the ejection port. This would be the same on any rifle so its not a WK intrinsic problem as such. Only if you want to shoot with the stock folded and there is really not much point in doing that.
 
You can't shoot with the stock folded as it gets in the way of the ejection port. This would be the same on any rifle so its not a WK intrinsic problem as such. Only if you want to shoot with the stock folded and there is really not much point in doing that.
Sir you are just plain wrong on that statement as lots of firearms especially those that have been for sale in Canada at one point or another come with folding stocks that do not force a FTE stoppage if fired from the folded position.

XCR's, Swiss Arms PE90/550/ect, HK G36s, VZ58s, BT GHM9's, T81's, heck even M1 Carbines just off the top of my head. Fired all of them with stocks open and folded without a single FTE/FTL

It's not a matter off wanting to shoot with the stock folded, but KNOWING the firearm will function 100% regardless of what position the stock is in.
 
No I am not wrong on this statement. If you watch WK videos they say it themselves. Those other firearms may be fine and I never said they weren't but the WK folding stock is known to casue stoppages by their own admission.

Also if you want to be pedantic I am no longer a Sir. Just a Dave.
 
I like how they add $500 for fixing things that shouldn't have existed in their first gen. Hard pass.
 
Timestamp 2:50 ....the man speaking states you will run into stoppages and stove pipes if you attempt to fire the rifle with the stock folded!

Kodiak openly confirms a major design flaw (amongst how many others may be still lurking) and doesn't see anything wrong with that at all and according to the rep the first few hundred rifles produced are all going to be shipped out with this known flaw.
Why do you consider it a major design flaw?

A design flaw is a design-related product property that leads to reduced product quality. Quality is how well something does what it was designed to do at a given price point and in comparison to others doing the same task.

If they decided not to make the effort to make it highly reliable while performing a task that is basically never conducted by their target market outside of hip firing into trash then that´s not a design flaw it´s just a limit of the scope that you don´t like much the same as some may not like that a Type 81 isn´t made with a picatinny rail.

It´s no problem to be unhappy that it can´t do it, but I don´t think it´s accurate to call it a design flaw.
 
Sir you are just plain wrong on that statement as lots of firearms especially those that have been for sale in Canada at one point or another come with folding stocks that do not force a FTE stoppage if fired from the folded position.

XCR's, Swiss Arms PE90/550/ect, HK G36s, VZ58s, BT GHM9's, T81's, heck even M1 Carbines just off the top of my head. Fired all of them with stocks open and folded without a single FTE/FTL

It's not a matter off wanting to shoot with the stock folded, but KNOWING the firearm will function 100% regardless of what position the stock is in.
T-81...yes an underfolder won't interfere with the action, also pretty much crap as a butt stock.

Was the rifle designed with a side folder, safe bet no, it's purpose, clearly, is to fit into a short case.

No design flaw, just unrealistic expectations...
 
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