New LAR15 magazines malfunction in AR-15

K0na_stinky said:
Something I thought I should ask.

My understanding of the law was that you can use a pistol mag in a rifle if the mag doesn't have to be modified to make it work.

Here you guys are modifying your pistol mags and posting it on a public forum and telling other people to do so as well.

Whats going on guys?
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I was under the same impression. I was following a thread on the red rifles forum where a guy modified his SKS rifle to accept the XCR 10 rounders. The consensus there was that he could not modify the XCR magazine to fit his SKS, but had to modify his rifle. If he modified the XCR magazine, it would then need to be pinned to 5 since it was changed to fit a rifle.

You guys are all grinding down the front of your mags to make it work in your AR-15s, SU-16s, RFB's, etc. Isn't it the same thing? You're modifying your pistol mags to work in your rifles.

I hate to play devils advocate here, but I don't want to see anyone get charged with possession of a prohibited device.
 
Decivox said:
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You guys are all grinding down the front of your mags to make it work in your AR-15s, SU-16s, RFB's, etc. Isn't it the same thing? You're modifying your pistol mags to work in your rifles...
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It is not so much modifying them to make them work in our rifles as much as it is modifying them to make them work period. That sharp front edge catches the rounds so it is just a matter of smoothing that edge out. If I had a pistol that took the LAR mags I'd be doing the same thing. The first LAR mags I bought had no issues, it seems that the more recent batches do.
 
Runningfool said:
...If I had a pistol that took the LAR mags I'd be doing the same thing...
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Thats the thing though, IF you had a pistol. I am guessing that if anyone got charged and went to court over this, it would be pretty hard to prove that they ground down the front of their mags to work in a pistol they don't own.

Maybe I am just being overly cautious here... :confused:
 
Decivox said:
Thats the thing though, IF you had a pistol. I am guessing that if anyone got charged and went to court over this, it would be pretty hard to prove that they ground down the front of their mags to work in a pistol they don't own.

Maybe I am just being overly cautious here... :confused:
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Think about it this way, if you received a mag in the mail and it was dented and you pushed that dent out, did you just modify that mag? Would that be illegal? Would you have trouble in court over that?
I'm not sure how familiar you are with these mags but we are not talking about grinding down the front of the mags, we are talking about smoothing the inside edge so that rounds don't catch on their way to the chamber. This doesn't change the way the mag functions, it allows it to function - big difference.
 
Decivox said:
I was under the same impression. I was following a thread on the red rifles forum where a guy modified his SKS rifle to accept the XCR 10 rounders. The consensus there was that he could not modify the XCR magazine to fit his SKS, but had to modify his rifle. If he modified the XCR magazine, it would then need to be pinned to 5 since it was changed to fit a rifle.

You guys are all grinding down the front of your mags to make it work in your AR-15s, SU-16s, RFB's, etc. Isn't it the same thing? You're modifying your pistol mags to work in your rifles.

I hate to play devils advocate here, but I don't want to see anyone get charged with possession of a prohibited device.
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Read the law. It states magazines designed and manufactured for use in...

Simple modifications like those listed do not change the fact that the magazine was desiigned and manufactured for use in the RRA pistol. I would imagine the test would be, after you modify it does it still work in said pistol. If the answer is no, then perhaps you have designed or modified a magazine for use in another firearm. If yes then you should not be concerned.
 
After dis-assembling Questar 10 rd. mags. and comparing the follower to far 'older' mags. that WORKED, I discovered there was a lot of excess 'flash' as you'd get on everything of molded plastic, on the front and rear of the follower. After removing about an inch +/- of this excess 'flash', 3 of 4 mags. worked flawlessly, the fourth I smoothed out and relieved a bit more, but haven't tried yet. No filing on mag. body at all, nothing 'obvious', just actually WORKS ! Like the good old 30 rounders of the past that you only put 28/29 in, less UP pressure 'cause springs less 'confined' in all that excess 'flash' on the front and back of follower.
 
crumbs...why is it i found this thread AFTER placing my order?! : (

oh well, will try them out and hope for the best. after all, aren't that many options if i want 10 rds (legally) in an AR. and there are work-arounds.

so did people order followers from brownell's, or a cdn source?
 
Questar LAR magazines

Hawkmoon said:
I purchased the 10 pack of LAR mags from Questar a little while ago. Out of 10, 8 didn't work at all, 1 worked now and then and 1 worked well. Required changing the followers on all 8 and filing down the mag body. That was in an Armalite AR which up to now has reliably feed everything put into it...
Questar was no help at all and suggested I look here for help. Thats customer service???

Needless to say I will not be buying anything from them again....

Hawkmoon
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I am not sure who from Questar told you this and I can assure you that is not our policy or our attitude. We have on occasion had people who have had issues with the occasional magazine and we have replaced them. I've not heard of 8 out of 10 being an issue before.

We seriously want to hear about any issue you have with the products we offer and get to the bottom of what the issues might be. Both for our own knowledge and to provide information back to the manufacturer. Without this we can't hope to offer better products.

If you are willing please contact me directly Scott@questar.ca to let me know what issues you were / are having with these magazines and if you're willing let me know who you were speaking to?
 
cyclone said:
Personal experience was that the Benelli MR-1 feeds those "new" LAR's eerily flawlessly....;)
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The two I have run without any issues so far in my Daniel Defense AR, even after installing Ranger Plates and trimming the followers to fit the tenth round.
 
Questar2 said:
I am not sure who from Questar told you this and I can assure you that is not our policy or our attitude. We have on occasion had people who have had issues with the occasional magazine and we have replaced them. I've not heard of 8 out of 10 being an issue before.

We seriously want to hear about any issue you have with the products we offer and get to the bottom of what the issues might be. Both for our own knowledge and to provide information back to the manufacturer. Without this we can't hope to offer better products.

If you are willing please contact me directly Scott@questar.ca to let me know what issues you were / are having with these magazines and if you're willing let me know who you were speaking to?
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This is a reassuring post- thanks!
 
I have come to the conclusion that the followers on the lar mags suck compared to my Pmag! The Pmag locked back the bolt 100% of the time, every time. The lar followers tilt and the bolt catch gets jammed into the side of the follower, and is very hard to remove. Very annoying!
 
Questar2 said:
IWe seriously want to hear about any issue you have with the products we offer and get to the bottom of what the issues might be. Both for our own knowledge and to provide information back to the manufacturer. Without this we can't hope to offer better products.
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has questar dealt with the manufacturer and had these mags fixed ?? as is unless you drememel 90% of the mags you buy they are useless... I bought 12 and 10 of them had the sharp edge and the rounds unable to load because of how deep the rounds sit in the magazine, and the round hanging on that sharp edge...had to remove 1/8th-1/4" from the front and bevel the edge to make them work.
 
what about the lar-15 mags from canada ammo?

C-Products LAR-15 AR-15 10 rd Pistol Magazine

Blackened stainless steel

orange anti-tilt follower
 
TinkerBell said:
has questar dealt with the manufacturer and had these mags fixed ?? as is unless you drememel 90% of the mags you buy they are useless... I bought 12 and 10 of them had the sharp edge and the rounds unable to load because of how deep the rounds sit in the magazine, and the round hanging on that sharp edge...had to remove 1/8th-1/4" from the front and bevel the edge to make them work.
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There definitely was a bad batch going around!
 
ive got some grey ones from questar, they have followers that look like bullets.
these were a little out of spec, i out them in a vice and tightened them up now they work. the followers are made of a cheap plastic, one of them got chewed up and would hand up on the bolt catch...i havent been able to find any new followers to i used epoxy glue.

i picked up 2 black ones from can am, they came with orange anti-tilt followers. ill be testing them today, but they look like better quality.
 
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