New load for my .300win mag. STIFF RECOIL,NEED LEAD SLED HELP!!!

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I just chrono'd a load on my .300winmag that I used last night. It is a 200gr
accubond bullet over 70gr of Reloader 22 Using winchester brass and magnum primers. OAL is 3.34 inches. Bullets are seated quite deeply and I used a heavy crimp to be sure they stay put. I hit 2730 fps pretty consistently. I am shooting these through a Savage 116 weather warrior stainless tupperware rifle. I nearly scope eyed myself twice and I am holding tightly.
ANY IDEA WHERE I CAN BUY a decent "lead sled" or similar rifle holder at a good price?? I have only seen one on wholesale sports site. WHO ELSE IN CANADA SELLS THESE FOR MAIL ORDER???? any help would be appreciated.:runaway::runaway::runaway:
 
if you need a lead sled why are you even bothering? won't you just smack yourself when you go to use them? i'm not trying to be rude...but it's not cool to cut yourself up when you're hunting haha
 
sgt.rock said--I just chrono'd a load on my .300winmag that I used last night. It is a 200gr
accubond bullet over 70gr of Reloader 22 Using winchester brass and magnum primers. OAL is 3.34 inches. Bullets are seated quite deeply and I used a heavy crimp to be sure they stay put. I hit 2730 fps pretty consistently
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Well sarg, you beat my 30-06! I worked up a load with the 200 grain Speer and Norma 205 powder.
The load I ended up with made 2715 fps over the chronograph. It showed no excessive pressure, so I used the same load and 200 grain Nosler partition with same results and even same poi as with the Speer.
As a point of interest, the load I used is just ½ grain heavier than is shown in a Norma loading chart. They show it as a velocity of 2684. So, the extra ½ grain in my rifle increased the speed to 2715.
 
The Savage plastic stock has entirely too small a butt area for the more powerful cartridges. That small butt sinks quite deeply into your shoulder under recoil. Do your self a favor and find a replacement stock with decent butt surface. It will make a lot of difference. Recent Browning bolt rifles suffer from the same fault. Bell and Carlson stocks are a reasonable price and have large surface areas on the butt in most models.
 
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watsknew said:
if you need a lead sled why are you even bothering? won't you just smack yourself when you go to use them? i'm not trying to be rude...but it's not cool to cut yourself up when you're hunting haha
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Its a lot worse shooting off a bench than it is in the field in my opinion. And, you fire off a lot more rounds developing a load. For me at least, its the muzzle just that gets to me on my light weight 300WM rifle, not so much the recoil. Something necessary, but unnatural about holding the gun down when its on a rest. I find it awkward.
 
You can try a ligther AB bullet, like 165/18o gr

You can also switch to a smaller cartridge. If the recoil is too much, then this may be the best idea.
 
Grizzlypeg said:
Its a lot worse shooting off a bench than it is in the field in my opinion. And, you fire off a lot more rounds developing a load. For me at least, its the muzzle just that gets to me on my light weight 300WM rifle, not so much the recoil. Something necessary, but unnatural about holding the gun down when its on a rest. I find it awkward.
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i will concede that load development is a viable reason for having a lead sled, and for sure it's worse shooting off a bench. However, in order to get proficient enough to take a gun/load combination to the field you need to shoot it outside of the lead sled, not much good if you can blast tight groups with it locked in a vice. I like the muzzle break ideas and different stock combinations for sure!
 
Thanks for the suggestions. The rifle is only 6.75 lbs. Way too light for stout loads. And yes, the stock is the ####s. Hard rubber recoil pad, small surface area. I have looked into getting another stock for it BUT NO ONE MAKES REPLACEMENT STOCKS FOR THE SAVAGE LONG ACTION with detachable magazine.
That is why I am asking where I can find some lead sleds, or similar rifle rests. I have no problems lighting this gun off in the field, but to sit at the bench and shoot 40-50 shots, the recoil just gets to me. It doesn't feel natural, and the table height at my local range is too low. I am 5'11" and 235lbs, so the .300 isn't a big worry to me. I don't flinch, I am just sick of trying to develop a good load and not being able to hold the crosshairs steady enough to know if its the bullet or me.
I am yet to feel recoil when I drop an animal. I just want to get serious with my reloading, and to do that I will be shooting alot of rounds per session, and having tried a decent rifle rest last week from some guy I met at the range, I am just looking for suggestions as to what type you guys have used, and where I can get a reasonably priced one.
As to the suggestion for using a lighter bullet, the reason I am loading the 200 grainers, is that those are the minimum bullet weight for the buffalo hunt up here in the NWT, and I want a load ready for this winter.
 
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ellwood epps has them at the moment. id try calling them and seeing how much shipping would be. (im guessing it would be a pretty penny unfortunetly as they arent the lightest in the world even without the lead)
 
sgt.rock said:
I don't flinch, I am just sick of trying to develop a good load and not being able to hold the crosshairs steady enough to know if its the bullet or me
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that *is* a flinch :confused: :)

You could try a lead sled, or maybe a new recoil pad, even a slip on Limbsaver/Decelerator for range work. Or you could sell your rifle and buy one with a decent stock that will absorb alot of the recoil rather than vibrate it into your cheekbones and shoulder like the hollow tupperware you're using now

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If you have the side button release detachable mag long action like I have, you can either: 1) simply place the action and mag in a blind mag wood stock and only minor clearancing is required 2) open up the bottom of the blind mag stock and drill a hole in the side for the button.
 
Strange, no one has commented on my 30-06 shooting the same bullet weight at the same velocity as the 300 W Mag! My rifle is a older, light weight Husqvarna with just a regular rubber butt cushion pad.
I am awaaay lighter than the stated shooter, but the rifle fits me and I don't mind the recoil a bit.
 
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