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this is a thread :M&P 15-22 no bs like the other thread.
i was wondering if itll be available in Canada? anyone know? any info? thanks
 
There was nothing BS about the other threads on the MP 15-22...

Like the rest of us where waiting as well but do let us know if you hear some non-bs news on a release date. ;)
 
The ROC said:
There was nothing BS about the other threads on the MP 15-22...

Like the rest of us where waiting as well but do let us know if you hear some non-bs news on a release date. ;)
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I spoke with the RCMP firearms center today, they couldn't give me an answer. A Technician (Louie?) is supposed to give me a call sometime today to let me know. It doesn't look good though, I mentioned it looked like a black rifle and the lady said it was probably restricted.... ####ty.
 
cpynch said:
It doesn't look good though, I mentioned it looked like a black rifle and the lady said it was probably restricted.... s**tty.
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:rolleyes:

Why don't we let whoever is attempting to import them talk with the RCMP before every Reggy on this forum calls in and gives their inquiries and opinions of the matter.
 
The tech's an idiot if they based it on cosmetics. Not, only that, but he's in contravention of a ruling of the Ontario High Court of Justice.
 
Armament said:
:rolleyes:

Why don't we let whoever is attempting to import them talk with the RCMP before every Reggy on this forum calls in and gives their inquiries and opinions of the matter.
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HUGE +1

"YA...It looks like a M-16..(insert Beavis laugh) I bet the SWAT team would show up if i was shooting this thing..(insert Beavis laugh)..It has big mags....and it's black...it looks Sooo Tacticool!!!.....(insert Beavis laugh)

...Will it be restricted???"
 
Shooting Times review for those who haven't seen it:

http://www.shootingtimes.com/longgun_reviews/ST_profoundly_200910/index.html

Engineered and manufactured from the ground up as a true .22 LR AR-15 rifle, its operator mechanics and features are identical to a centerfire AR-15's. The boltstop works the same. The magazine release works the same. The two-position safety switch works the same. The standard equipment sights are positioned the same and operate the same. The charging handle works the same. It disassembles for maintenance the same. All accessory and attachment point specifications are the same. Just about everything is the same--except it's a .22 rimfire.

Of course, there are some elemental differences as well. Most notably, the M&P15-22's upper and lower receivers are fabricated from lightweight, high-strength, glass-filled, nylon polymer with integral steel inserts in appropriate stress and reinforcement points. The full-length quad-rail handguard is also polymer. The M&P15-22 therefore weighs notably less overall than a centerfire AR-15 and has faster handling qualities (particularly for younger and smaller sport shooters). A standard centerfire AR-15 in basic configuration weighs about 6.5 pounds. The M&P15-22 weighs a full pound less.

Also, the interface dimensions of the upper and lower receiver units are intentionally designed at a fraction less than 100 percent of centerfire specifications, as well as shorter overall, to make it impossible for anyone to install a standard AR-15 upper receiver on a polymer M&P15-22 lower receiver, or vice versa. And the upper receiver does not have a forward-assist lever; the straight-blowback action doesn't need one.
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Mr. Maarten Kramers
Chief Firearms Officer
Department of Justice
5151 Terminal Road, Ground Floor
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3J 2L6
Tel: (902) 424-1712
FAX: (902) 424-4308

Mr. Kramers just ASSURED me that the M&P15-22 was NON RESTRICTED due to the fact that the Upper receiver cannot be swapped to make this center fire rifle.

Order away!
 
cpynch said:
Mr. Maarten Kramers
Chief Firearms Officer
Department of Justice
5151 Terminal Road, Ground Floor
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3J 2L6
Tel: (902) 424-1712
FAX: (902) 424-4308

Mr. Kramers just ASSURED me that the M&P15-22 was NON RESTRICTED due to the fact that the Upper receiver cannot be swapped to make this center fire rifle.

Order away!
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Are you serious? Where can we order these things from?
 
cpynch said:
I spoke with the RCMP firearms center today, they couldn't give me an answer. A Technician (Louie?) is supposed to give me a call sometime today to let me know. It doesn't look good though, I mentioned it looked like a black rifle and the lady said it was probably restricted.... s**tty.
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Speaking with them is useless right now, you'll get 2 different answers depending on the day of the week you call them.
 
cpynch said:
Mr. Maarten Kramers
Chief Firearms Officer
Department of Justice
5151 Terminal Road, Ground Floor
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3J 2L6
Tel: (902) 424-1712
FAX: (902) 424-4308

Mr. Kramers just ASSURED me that the M&P15-22 was NON RESTRICTED due to the fact that the Upper receiver cannot be swapped to make this center fire rifle.

Order away!
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The GSG-5 cannot be converted to fire anything other than 22lr, but that did change the CFC from ruling it prohibited, and that ruling was based entirely on looks, nothing more. Once all the smoke clears, I am almost certain this will be another restricted rifle.
 
cpynch said:
Mr. Maarten Kramers
Chief Firearms Officer
Department of Justice
5151 Terminal Road, Ground Floor
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3J 2L6
Tel: (902) 424-1712
FAX: (902) 424-4308

Mr. Kramers just ASSURED me that the M&P15-22 was NON RESTRICTED due to the fact that the Upper receiver cannot be swapped to make this center fire rifle.

Order away!
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He's a Provincial CFO... he has absolutely no authority to classify the firearm, that is solely the job of the RCMP and specifically this guy...

Senior Firearms Technologist
Section Head
Firearms Reference Table
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Firearms Support Services Directorate
NPS - Rm 504
P.O. Box 8885,
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
K1G 3M8

Who's I believe is "away" right now, but I believe the work is currently being covered by Mr. Murray Smith (not 100% sure that Murray's filling in but that's what I've been told).

Any comments made by a provincial CFO are just their personal opinions and meaningless until RCMP Table Section issue a "Classification" and create an FRT #. Until your Mr. Kramers (or anyone else for that matter) can quote you an actual FRT # and confirm that the FRT has classified the gun as "Non-Restricted" you have nothing.

Sorry

Mark
 
I just gots me a new Tactical Solutions .22lr upper and a handful of BDM 25rnd mags..
I must admit at first it felt kinda ghey shooting a .22lr AR, but... It's a lot like fat chicks and mopeds.. 'Fun to ride as long as your friends don't see ya. :D

It's restricted, but for me it doesn't matter as I do all my shooting on ranges

I'm so pleased with this dedicated .22lr AR that I find myself day dreaming about how I'd set up rimfire carbine tac-match.
It would be ghey, but.... If everyone promises not to laugh or take it too seriousley....
 
Questar said:
He's a Provincial CFO... he has absolutely no authority to classify the firearm, that is solely the job of the RCMP and specifically this guy...

Senior Firearms Technologist
Section Head
Firearms Reference Table
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Firearms Support Services Directorate
NPS - Rm 504
P.O. Box 8885,
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
K1G 3M8

Who's I believe is "away" right now, but I believe the work is currently being covered by Mr. Murray Smith (not 100% sure that Murray's filling in but that's what I've been told).

Any comments made by a provincial CFO are just their personal opinions and meaningless until RCMP Table Section issue a "Classification" and create an FRT #. Until your Mr. Kramers (or anyone else for that matter) can quote you an actual FRT # and confirm that the FRT has classified the gun as "Non-Restricted" you have nothing.

Sorry

Mark
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Well ####. lol

I'm going to see if I can get some more information...
 
Questar said:
He's a Provincial CFO... he has absolutely no authority to classify the firearm, that is solely the job of the RCMP and specifically this guy...

Any comments made by a provincial CFO are just their personal opinions and meaningless until RCMP Table Section issue a "Classification" and create an FRT #. Until your Mr. Kramers (or anyone else for that matter) can quote you an actual FRT # and confirm that the FRT has classified the gun as "Non-Restricted" you have nothing.

Sorry

Mark
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One would think that this is obvious.
 
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