new m305 first clean questions

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alright, first time touching a m305, just got shipped in today.

my questions:

this thing looks like its been drowned in oil (brownish liquid) not cosmoline (a sludge from what i understand) like everything is soaked, including the inside of the stock compartment with the cleaning kit.

So, to the first thing i SHOULD do is clean everything, except, do i soak this thing in mineral spirits then oil it then grease the right bits? or wipe off the oil and re oil and grease, pretend it will all be ok?

in breaking it down do i need to take apart my trigger group and clean that? (and oil it?)

bolt internals?

what about the gas system?

should i take off the sights and clean under that?

flash suppressor?

basically i want to know just how far i should go to get the original oil (i think) off it, and do i re oil the entire gun including the spots where i should grease then apply the grease over that? ( never used grease before )

so this is basically like i'm a teen and its my first time....

Please educate me, the stickies showed me how to take it down and where to put the grease, but not what to do with a new rifle soaked in whatever this stuff is... thanks! <3
 
ht tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y7_GxyQuNw&feature=relmfu

Awesome vid for dis-assembly and reassembly for the m14 and variants

Sticky

Click on the first link for greasing points and more dis-assembly info.

Basically I stripped the major groups, left the rear sight in, trigger group and bolt assembly together and rinsed everything in varsol and immediately rubbed oil once the varsol had dried. Once a thin layer of oil was applied, I greased the points referenced in the sticky and called it a day. I didn't think it would be necessary to apply excess oil to areas that require grease, but I did coat everything in a thin layer of oil.
 
Longshot84 said:
...trigger group and bolt assembly together and rinsed everything in varsol and immediately rubbed oil once the varsol had dried....
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now if you soak this stuff in varsol wont you have to take it apart to reoil it anyways? or am i missing something here lol
 
RaptorX said:
now if you soak this stuff in varsol wont you have to take it apart to reoil it anyways? or am i missing something here lol
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You can selectively oil/grease the trigger group without dissassembly. I would suggest doing a search (I just tried finding the half dozen threads I read through before I stripped my M305, but they must be on my work pc). There is a TON of useful, in depth, picture tutorials, links, videos in this forum that will answer your questions much, much better than I can. There was a really good post with detailed photos of all the grease points, but I'm having a hard time finding it ATM.

Again, going back to what I did...I pulled everything apart except the bolt and trigger group, cleaned everything with varsol, dried it, light film of oil/G96 on the bore, externals, charging handle and receiver, then greased the sucker up. IIRC the gas system should be left dry, and I didn't bother stripping/oiling all of the bolt components as I think it should be left dry as well (someone correct me if I'm wrong!)

HTH
 
Man . . . I just did a standard field strip and when thru a s**t tonne of paper towels.
Didn't use any solvents. Maybe just used some Hoppes Elite (M-Pro7) to wipe down a few places.

Strategically, I made sure important areas were clear of oil, and I LEFT the packing oil in the places I would of oiled anyway. I kept paper towels with me during range visits to wipe off any bleed. I forget the rest, it was a while ago.

I was not stranger to guns and had researched the hell out of the M14 system before I got it, so I knew my do's and don't's.

Basically, I cleaned the barrel, made sure the firing pin and gas system was dry, wiped off the excess, and let'er rip.

Most specifically, I most certainly did not take off the front sight and flash hider. I would not recommend it either, you'll manage fine without having to do so.
If you're feeling brave, yeah, take the bolt apart. Got to make sure that firing pin is dry. I somehow managed without doing so at the time.
I have never, in the time that I've owned my M305B, over 2500 rounds later, taken my trigger group apart.
 
Brake cleaner bro, seriously. Bust that sucker down into a bunch of pieces, spray it inside and out and then oil bath. Wipe it down with towels and you're g-ballin
 
weee, break cleaner, varsol, simple green... break free clp.... some grease... annnd shes done...

now i should probably get this thing head spaced so i don't explode right?
 
RaptorX said:
now i should probably get this thing head spaced so i don't explode right?
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You'll probably be fine but it's good to get that checked if you're a reloader. My gun has a sloppy chamber at 1.639 so I have to limit my reloads to 3 per brass or sort out a new bolt / barrel etc.

Despite what all the naysayers will have you believe, you can neck size for these guns, I have done it many times and it works well. I'm about to start doing 3 loads neck size, FL size, run mags with 1 cartridge in at a time while checking for web cracks to see how many times I can load a piece of Winchester brass safely. I'm guessing I'll get to 6 or 7
 
i take a metal coffee can and half fill with varsol.old tooth brush or a strong bristle
brush @ the dollar store.dump parts in 1 @ a time and let soak for a minute then scrub
with brush,redunk,brush...until cosmo. or oil removed.brake cleaner might be better for
bolt as it gets into tighter spots.
reoil with clp g96 whatever...
as for headspace,check the "indexing of your barrel".if the front sight is not tilted
left or right and the bullet bchannels on the barrel are @ 6:00 or straight down then indexing should be ok and headspace may be ok.rcbs makes a cartridge case headspace
checker.your fired rounds give an approximate headspace when you insert them into
the dies and turn the 2 pieces of the die to read the graduation marks.
 
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