New magazines causing FTFeed , any ideas welcome. m305

I'll add this.
The above is the oposite of what yer getting at, I know. In my example we wanted to do away with that hole, making the mag body match the AIA and removing/filling in, the M14 cut out.

To add that cutout would make the mag resemble a M14 mag and for lack of markings on the AIA M10 factory magazines, how would or could you physically prove to an inspector that it was an AIA mag.... You can't. AiA mags don't have that hole.

So based on that, yes, you could argue that if a semi auto mag is always a semi auto mag , the same would apply with a bolt action mag..... But that goes out the window as soon as you "modify it" for a semi auto rifle.
 
I got it from my hard copies of the firearms act as it pertains to individuals and businesses, and the accompanying booklet called understanding the firearms act. It's interesting what one can receive in the mail from cFC if one requests it. Some prefer to troll the internet... Others go find out for themselves ;) Thanks I will request a copy

Very early on in the AIA rifle's existence in canada, I had a line on quality magazines for the M14. we're going back to mid 2000's.
So, I wanted to chop the 20 round mag bodies and with a die, shape them into 10 round bodies, tig weld the front tab closed... And voila a 10 round canadian AIA M10 mag. I thought I was gonna make out like a bandit with prices of AIA mags in EE at 250 a pop at the time. The CFC cleared up any notion that it would be legal to do so, it was pretty cut and dry that the mags would be deemed prohibited devices and my evil genius plan to make AIA mags died on the shop floor before we even got started. Reason, it started life as a semi auto magazine (5round cap) and no matter what you do to it, it remains a semi auto magazine(5round cap) I can see that but....what if it starts out as a bolt action magazine which happens to work in a semi?....what changes by drilling a hole in the front?....it is still a bolt action magazine that happens to work in a semi

But you go ahead :D
I have no intention of doing this... I am just asking the questions
 
This has me worried now.
I dropped $103 bucks tax and shipping in on one.
It cycled the rounds fairly well just cycling by hand.
I haven't taken it out for a live fire test yet.
If it doesn't work or works like s**t I'm going to be mighty unhappy.
But I'll also never again stray from my usual stance on "be skeptical of all Canadian Firearms Market products and wait for user reports before dropping stupid cash on unproven garbage"....
Hopefull it's not a lesson I'll have to learn on this one :(
 
This has me worried now.
I dropped $103 bucks tax and shipping in on one.
It cycled the rounds fairly well just cycling by hand.
I haven't taken it out for a live fire test yet.
If it doesn't work or works like s**t I'm going to be mighty unhappy.
But I'll also never again stray from my usual stance on "be skeptical of all Canadian Firearms Market products and wait for user reports before dropping stupid cash on unproven garbage"....
Hopefull it's not a lesson I'll have to learn on this one :(

Well I just came back from the range with 3 different m305/m14 (all chinese)... and the magazines fit very tight and functioned perfectly...no ftf or fte and the mag held the action open after the last shot
I was very impressed with them...I wouldnt worry at all...seems like a very good quality product
 
Sorry where does poking a hole make it a prohibited?



3. (1) Any cartridge magazine
(a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in
(i) a semi-automatic handgun that is not commonly available in Canada,
(ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,
(iii) an automatic firearm whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger,
(iv) the firearms of the designs commonly known as the Ingram M10 and M11 pistols, and any variants or modified versions of them, including the Cobray M10 and M11 pistols, the RPB M10, M11 and SM11 pistols and the SWD M10, M11, SM10 and SM11 pistols,
(v) the firearm of the design commonly known as the Partisan Avenger Auto Pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, or
(vi) the firearm of the design commonly known as the UZI pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Micro-UZI pistol; or
(b) that is capable of containing more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada.
(2) Paragraph (1)(a) does not include any cartridge magazine that
(a) was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that
(i) is chambered for, or designed to use, rimfire cartridges,
(ii) is a rifle of the type commonly known as the “Lee Enfield” rifle, where the magazine is capable of containing not more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed, or
(iii) is commonly known as the U.S. Rifle M1 (Garand) including the Beretta M1 Garand rifle, the Breda M1 Garand rifle and the Springfield Armoury M1 Garand rifle;
(b) is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that
(i) is commonly known as the Charlton Rifle,
(ii) is commonly known as the Farquhar-Hill Rifle, or
(iii) is commonly known as the Huot Automatic Rifle;
(c) is of the “drum” type, is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm commonly known as
(i) the .303 in. Lewis Mark 1 machine-gun, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Lewis Mark 1*, Mark 2, Mark 2*, Mark 3, Mark 4, Lewis SS and .30 in. Savage-Lewis,
(ii) the .303 in. Vickers Mark 1 machine-gun, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Mark 1*, Mark 2, Mark 2*, Mark 3, Mark 4, Mark 4B, Mark 5, Mark 6, Mark 6* and Mark 7, or
(iii) the Bren Light machine-gun, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Mark 1, Mark 2, Mark 2/1, Mark 3 and Mark 4;
(d) is of the “metallic-strip” type, is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for use in conjunction with the firearm known as the Hotchkiss machine-gun, Model 1895 or Model 1897, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Hotchkiss machine-gun, Model 1900, Model 1909, Model 1914 and Model 1917, and the Hotchkiss machine-gun (Enfield), Number 2, Mark 1 and Mark 1*;
(e) is of the “saddle-drum” type (doppeltrommel or satteltrommel), is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for use in the automatic firearms known as the MG-13, MG-15, MG-17, MG-34, T6-200 or T6-220, or any variant or modified version of it; or
(f) is of the “belt” type consisting of a fabric or metal belt, is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for the purpose of feeding cartridges into a automatic firearm of a type that was in existence before 1945.
(3) Paragraph (1)(b) does not include any cartridge magazine that
(a) is of the “snail-drum” type (schneckentrommel) that was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that is a handgun known as the Parabellum-Pistol, System Borchardt-Luger, Model 1900, or “Luger”, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Model 1902, Model 1904 (Marine), Model 1904/06 (Marine), Model 1904/08 (Marine), Model 1906, Model 1908 and Model 1908 (Artillery) pistols;
(b) was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that is a semi-automatic handgun, where the magazine was manufactured before 1910;
(c) was originally designed or manufactured as an integral part of the firearm known as the Mauser Selbstladepistole C/96 (“broomhandle”), or any variant or modified version of it, including the Model 1895, Model 1896, Model 1902, Model 1905, Model 1912, Model 1915, Model 1930, Model 1931, M711 and M712; or
(d) was originally designed or manufactured for use in the semi-automatic firearm that is a handgun known as the Webley and Scott Self-Loading Pistol, Model 1912 or Model 1915.
(4) A cartridge magazine described in subsection (1) that has been altered or re-manufactured so that it is not capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be, of the type for which it was originally designed is not a prohibited device as prescribed by that subsection if the modification to the magazine cannot be easily removed and the magazine cannot be easily further altered so that it is so capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be.
(5) For the purposes of subsection (4), altering or re-manufacturing a cartridge magazine includes
(a) the indentation of its casing by forging, casting, swaging or impressing;
(b) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a steel or aluminum casing, the insertion and attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or aluminum, as the case may be, or of a similar material, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method; or
(c) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a casing made of a material other than steel or aluminum, the attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or of a material similar to that of the magazine casing, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method or by applying a permanent adhesive substance, such as a cement or an epoxy or other glue.
 
The way I read it....the only thing prohibiting altering or re-manufacturing would be making it hold more cartridges than it was originally designed for
if you are not altering the magazine to hold more cartridges, I dont see the problem
 
The way I read it....the only thing prohibiting altering or re-manufacturing would be making it hold more cartridges than it was originally designed for
if you are not altering the magazine to hold more cartridges, I dont see the problem

Asks questions, then argues with the answers. I didn't realize my wife had CGN account!? :)
 
Everyone should keep in mind that to date all of this (the LAR 10 round pistol mags and Beowulf mags too) is the RCMP's interpretation of the laws (as poorly as they are written).
 
Decided to sell 1 mag (maybe a little prematurely) and then today I went out with the other 2 mags I hadn't put magpulls on. They worked 100% unassisted and while pressure is applied to the bottom of them (resting on magazine) so I'm gonna lay the blame on sloppy old guns and the extra weight of the 2nd mag (magpull'd = 20 rounds and 2 mags).

I'm going to take the magpull off the other 2 mags and try again tomorrow, rain stopped me a bit early today. I'm going to update my original post so people aren't scared of these mags.
 
so you guys buy shaky $75 magazines for a $400 rifle that shoots $1 rounds. there are things that go beyond my comprehension.

Actually the AIA rifle is originally about 600, and now they go for 800-1000.

As far as the M1A, i have much more than that into it. Thats .40cents for FMJ, less when you reload and have buckets worth of 308 brass.

Hope that clears up the confusion.
 
Decided to sell 1 mag (maybe a little prematurely) and then today I went out with the other 2 mags I hadn't put magpulls on. They worked 100% unassisted and while pressure is applied to the bottom of them (resting on magazine) so I'm gonna lay the blame on sloppy old guns and the extra weight of the 2nd mag (magpull'd = 20 rounds and 2 mags).

I'm going to take the magpull off the other 2 mags and try again tomorrow, rain stopped me a bit early today. I'm going to update my original post so people aren't scared of these mags.


good news, so the mags are gtg but the coupler thinging not so much eh?
good to know ;)
 
yeah the couplers are cool and all and I put one of them on (without another mag attached) the bottom of a mag during testing since the archangel stocks swallow the mag up pretty well (not as bad as a 5/5 but still a pain to remove)

definately would be a nice addition to some snugger 5/5 round mags (if i hadn't sold them before getting these elanders LOL)

not quite out of the woods yet as I've yet to test the original two mags but it will probably be smooth sailing
 
Yep all mags working well without the mag wedge + extra mag and rounds attached but the magwedge is nice to have even without 2nd mag with the archangel stock so not a total loss and they were working in one of the guns with the full weight doubled upso your mileage may vary
 
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