New Marlin 1895 shooting WAY left, among other things...

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So I am trying to find a way to correct the POI on an 1895CB that I purchased a few weeks ago. Out of the box the rifle looks good(for a Remington built gun) but it shot about 18" left at 100 yards. I checked the sight and it's not canted, crown was a bit off centre, so I re-cut it on my lathe.

Tested the rifle again and the groups are better but I still have the rear sight cranked almost off the flat to get it on paper.

Things I also noticed while doing this work if that there is :

- Noticed one rifling land that is almost non existent, .004 shallower than the rest
- Octagon flats are not all parallel or same width
- I think the barrel flats are twisted, barrel looks over indexed at the receiver but at the muzzle the top flat is canted as if under indexed. In other words, looking from the muzzle the top flat leans left at the muzzle and right at the receiver.
- And to top it off the last round hangs up on the carrier more often than not.

I can overlook most items as long as I can get it shooting straight but not sure how to do it other than maybe a bit of precision bending of the barrel with an indicator, shop press and lots of test firing.

After seeing the headaches of people dealing with Gravel I am hesitant to return it for a "repair" or exchange since you never know if the replacement will be worse... also it has some handling marks now from use so not sure what they will say about that.

Suggestions? Maybe just send this heap back and see what happens?
 
Because I'm dense!

I like the rifle overall and was hoping it was just the crown. Realistically if worse comes to worst I'll bob it to 19" and see how it shoots then. Be like having an 1895 CBA.
 
With a non-uniform land on one side I would suggest that no matter what length you bob it too it won't improve at all.

With the screwed up land a new barrel repair might be offered to you but as Trinimon has stated, after messing with the crown I think you might be stuck with a boat anchor or have to pony up the cash for your own repair.
 
when you had the barrel out for crowning did you look through the barrel to see if it was bent ? If it is bent easier to tweak straight than to try with it assembled on a lever rifle..If Gravel won't fixer for you .

Again as others have mentioned that having the issue best practice was to return to Gravel before self smithing it
 
I did not have the bbl off for the re-crown as it fit through my spindle just fine after removing the magazine tube. I'll try pulling the lever and bolt then checking the bore against a white background or a vertical line.


The shallow land does not seem to affect the grouping, shoots about 1.5" regularly when sighting it in at 100 yards.

The primary reason I did not send it back right away was that I have seen enough negative experiences with Marlin warranty claims that I did not need the headache of sending the rifle back and forth being told it had been "fixed" when nothing was done.

Guess you guys are right . My mistake to try and finish a rifle that Remington/Marlin obviously still has not figured out how to make properly. If I am stuck with it then so be it, I'll have a project to learn on if that can be seen as a silver lining. I have a full machine shop at home and the skills to fix it, just have to give it a go I guess.

I'll try and report back on the results with a detailed post regarding the crowning and bending if I go ahead with it.
 
aric84 said:
crown was a bit off centre, so I re-cut it on my lathe.

Things I also noticed while doing this work if that there is :

- Noticed one rifling land that is almost non existent, .004 shallower than the rest
- Octagon flats are not all parallel or same width
- I think the barrel flats are twisted, barrel looks over indexed at the receiver but at the muzzle the top flat is canted as if under indexed. In other words, looking from the muzzle the top flat leans left at the muzzle and right at the receiver.
- And to top it off the last round hangs up on the carrier more often than not.
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Keep us posted.

This confirms I won't ever waste my money on any Remlin new or old.
 
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