new marlin 336w thoughts

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well I bought a new Marlin 336 w a few months back.
It was a "return" never fired. the customer got home, took a good look at it and returned it. So I bought it. I have always liked lever rifles.

I just got around to looking it over "really well" and I have to say it needs a bit of tinkering.
What kind of wood is on this rifle ?

The original wood was dull with poor checkering and very weak grain lines.
I started to re-do the wood...... The wood design disappeared after sanding with the 280 grit sandpaper LOL
It sanded down ridiculously easy with NO grain pattern. YIKES

I'm going to have to put artificial lines back in. The stain took very unevenly ."not sure what I'm going to do with it or how its going to turn out"

NEXT- the front site- well the hood was deformed "poorly made" and made out of wimpy light tin. Sure not like the old ones.
The top of site was bent to the Left.
who ever put it in at the factory didnt have it drifted far enough over either. It was way RIGHT.
you could see "drifting marks on the site as well.

so I picked up a new site and hood for it today. looks great.

It seems to cycle dummy rounds very well. the action is ok but not "fluid" like the earlier models.

The finish on the metal is very dull and unattractive. Not sure what can be done about that.
The barrel and Tube looks "painted" its certainly not bluing.

I'm sure its going to function just fine........it just doesnt look like the old ones.

will post pics when I'm done with it.
 
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well I took all the metal parts over to a friend thats just getting into Cerama Coating.
this will be his first job. Hey.....its gotta look better than it did, LOL

I was able to put "some" wood grain into the wood on the stock and forarm.
I'm not really pleased with the result....oh well.

I redone a RIA copy of the ruger 10/22 a few years back. It had fake wood. It was hard to do.
I think the stocks are made out of fiberglass and wood pulp mixed and pressed together.
will have pics soon.
 
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well I'm happy. My buudy did pretty good for his 1st time.
Its kinda "matt black" it looks Even. It seems really durable.
I tried scratching it,....tuff stuff for sure.
well the metal is all done and looks way better than new.

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I have had newer Marlins and JM marlins, to be honest i would not pay more than $500 new for any Marlin no matter the caliber these days.

1, Newer Marlin 45-70, checkering was awful , front site hood and post loose (post can be moved easily) so sent it back to store. The second was better checkering but still crap, front site was ok.
2. Ddint learn from first 45-70 and purchased second, checkering was ok, but this time extractor needed replacing from new.
3. 44mag JM stamped, holy grail of marlins (yeah right) this one had to have lifter replaced, front sight fell off (threads are shallow and screw would not hold)

I kept the 44 mag, after speeding almost $200 extra to fix as it shoots great, the price for marlin rifles these days is a joke and i hope who ever pays these high prices gets a good rifle.
 
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I agree with all you said. certainly not like the old version.
If I would have paid full price, I would have returned it as well.
I also looked at a new Rossi and was not impressed. lots of issues as well.
Junk junk junk...thats all you get these days.....and for a high price, LOL
This marlin reminds me of some Norinco rifles I have owned.



still working on the wood. or should I say.....wonder wood.
 
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lone ranger said:
I agree with all you said. Poor workmanship indeed. certainly not like the old version.
If I would have paid full price, I would have returned it as well.
I also looked at a new Rossi and was not impressed. lots of issues as well.
Junk junk junk...thats all you get these days.....and for a high price, LOL
This marlin reminds me of some Norinco rifles I have owned.



still working on the wood. or should I say.....wonder wood.
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Are we really complaining that a $600 rifle isn't fancy?
Either way, remington won't be making them anymore. Surely ruger will change something, potentially everything.
 
heronfish said:
Are we really complaining that a $600 rifle isn't fancy?
Either way, remington won't be making them anymore. Surely ruger will change something, potentially everything.
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$600 bucks ?? where ? I would really like to see the Dealer thats asking that low price. ??

cheapest price I could find was $800 plus taxes ...$880
 
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madtrapper143 said:
Paint the wood black. That is all the "Dark" series are. Keep working the lever and shooting the gun. It will smooth up and be a very good workhorse.

Darryl
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I will bet ya dollars to donuts that stock is also the same wood, LOL
A black duragaurd coating is exactly what this stock deserves. But hey....It would have been easier to make it a black model.
 
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Ref the remarks on the "checkering." I believe many of the basic models feature 'press checkering' meaning that they are just shallow imprints/indents made to the whatever wood they use (beech?) vice cut-checkering.

It is somewhat funny that the tacticool Dark series is no more than paint over basic lumber. At that point, I'd just go with a well made synthetic LOL
 
What is fake wood?
I had no idea Marlin was making synthetic stocks... although as Winz points out... they should!

Are you calling it fake because it's not walnut?
 
I've seen some high priced new Marlins that are junk,our local canadian tire has a Sbl for $1399 and the bolt sticks out of the reciever when the lever is in te closed position ,but only on one side,it's flush to the reciever on the other side like it should be .the wood fits the gun like you would expect on a junk gun.
 
lone ranger said:
$600 bucks ?? where ? I would really like to see the Dealer thats asking that low price. ??

cheapest price I could find was $800 plus taxes ...$880
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So.
You still bought the cheapest lever gun 9n the market and are wondering why it isnt highly finished.

Like buying a chevy and complaining that it isn't a Cadillac
 
heronfish said:
So.
You still bought the cheapest lever gun 9n the market and are wondering why it isnt highly finished.

Like buying a chevy and complaining that it isn't a Cadillac
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If i buy any new car i expect to drive it out the lot without the mirrors or wheels falling off, the basics on these rifles are crap because the manufacture dosnt give a sh1t anymore.

I have purchased expensive (for me) rifles that had issues out of the box, and yet i paid $100 for my first sks that never gave me any issues (sights didn't fall off, broken extractor,screws screwed up)
 
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Can-down said:
What is fake wood?
I had no idea Marlin was making synthetic stocks... although as Winz points out... they should!

Are you calling it fake because it's not walnut?
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well I guess its suppose to be birch wood, there is absolutely NO grain.
The stain Wont take to it. When you sand it ,..it doesnt even small like wood.
I think the grain is "some sort of printing". a couple swipes of the sand paper and it Gone.

Its Faux grain over .........fiber wood ??

A few years back I had a vz semi auto rifle and the wood on the stock was referred to as "beaver barf"
I think it was a ressin and wood mixed together.
 
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lone ranger said:
well I guess its suppose to be birch wood, but I dont think it is "real wood." there is absolutely NO grain.
The stain Wont take to it. When you sand it ,..it doesnt even small like wood. It smalls like chemical
I think the grain is "some sort of printing". a couple swipes of the sand paper and it Gone.

Its Faux grain over .........fiber wood ??

A few years back I had a vz semi auto rifle and the wood on the stock was referred to as "beaver barf"
I think it was a ressin and wood mixed together.
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Thanks, I hadn't heard of that being done, sounds similar to MDF. Wood fibers and resins, I can't believe they would bother trying to make it look like wood, the beaver barf is a good material for what it is or was used for.
 
so here is where I'm at.
I used this shaggy brush & Brown stain to make the "wood grain look"
I'm not happy with it but its better than NO grain.
I used a knife to recut the checkering.
I have 2 layers of True Oil on. Its time for a light sanding and 3 more coats.
The True oil will make the stock much more durable.

Kem Tone use to sell a kit to do wood grain on metal. I did some of that back in the 70's
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My older 336 w has birch furniture. I simply stripped the finish and put 9 coats of tongue oil on it. I don't mind the look. My 45-70 dark has hardwood ( white oak I think) I trued up wood to metal then covered w OD green. It's a hunting rifle not art work. Both shoot just over moa w open sights and have no mechanical issues.
It's been general knowledge that later Marlins need a good look over to ensure you get a decent one...sounds like you intentionally bought a reject and are complaining it doesn't live up to your standards.
 
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