New member of the TT33 club

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Hi all, last week I was in Vancouver for business meetings, and after we checked out of our hotel and were heading south on Burrard, I realized we were close to Lever Arms so I stopped in. I was hoping to find a No.5 (no such luck), when Blair Hagen walked in. He pointed out the TT33's, but having just spent $1000 on winter tires and rims, I was reluctant. My wife, who had been shopping, turned up about then, and said "Only $169.00 for a pistol? You should get it."
Major kudos to my wife, and great thanks to Blair, and to Lever Arms: this arrived in yesterdays mail, 2 days after the transfer was approved:




After cleaning, two things came to light- the feed ramp is sorry looking but i can tidy that up, and the barrel, which looked... not great, after one patch through it turned out to be the shiniest, smoothest, mirror-brightest bore I've ever seen on any firearm. I doubt it ever had more than the factory test rounds through it.



I tried to get a pic that really shows how clean it now is, but none really turned out well. Anyway, I have no idea how well it will shoot, and I do realize I'll be painstakingly handloading every one of these bottlenecked pistol cartridges, and I'll have to buy dies, brass, and projectiles. A fate worse than death to some, but another winter project for me. Tell you one thing that's annoying as hell- the base of the mag has two 90 degree corners that rub on the hand because the grip is so short. Since it came with 2 mags (one numbered to the pistol, these things are all-matching fwiw) I'll try taking a file to the spare (not matching) mag first and see if that cures it or reduces it to a dull roar.

Still, all things considered, this may be one of the truly great bargains of our time, provided you're willing to either handload, or are willing to strip and clean it after every use of the corrosive surplus that's available. With the pristine bore I have, I won't be using any surplus.
The TT33 is like the Netflix of pistols. :D
 
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Post war Russian refurbs are usually quite nice. Rediculous to load for these though, lots of cheap surplus around...
 
Dude save the hand loading for when the surplus runs out, just pick up a crate of surplus ammo. Run some hot water down the bore and clean.
 
I have two now. I had Tradeex send me a war years one pretty much identical to yours. After shooting it I couldn't resist getting a post war model with the Izzy triangle grips. Barrels are perfect mirror finish just like you describe. Even after hundreds of rounds of 50's Czech surplus ammo.
 
I handload this caliber for my 1911. No different than any other caliber. Budget has the brass. he also has berry's 110g M1carbine bullet. It is cheap and shoots very well. Bullet Barn made me up a batch of 95 gr lead SWC bullets, sized 309. They work very well,, too.
 
I handload this caliber for my 1911. No different than any other caliber. Budget has the brass. he also has berry's 110g M1carbine bullet. It is cheap and shoots very well. Bullet Barn made me up a batch of 95 gr lead SWC bullets, sized 309. They work very well,, too.

I've been looking at those Berry's M1 bullets, I don't suppose you have a load for W231? And I'm going to have to find dies, as well. This may take a while, but that's half the fun, anyway.

kennymo, do you have pics of those grips?
 
Nice looking Toke....I just bought one from them too, waiting for the mail to arrive. If you do a search on eBay there is a guy down south selling "Tokegypt" grips, I ordered a pair for mine, also GunPartsWarehouse will ship to Canada and they have lots of Tokarev parts.
 
Nice looking Toke....I just bought one from them too, waiting for the mail to arrive. If you do a search on eBay there is a guy down south selling "Tokegypt" grips, I ordered a pair for mine, also GunPartsWarehouse will ship to Canada and they have lots of Tokarev parts.

I ordered a set of the Tokeypt grips from Ebay. They fit very well and installation was no problem, however one of them cracked the first time I fired the gun after installation. Unfortunately it was over a month after I had received them so there wasn't much to be done. It seems to me that time has made the plastic brittle and that is why they failed. If you purchase these maybe see what recourse you have with the seller if they break right away.

I have 3 versions of TT-33's now and they all wear Marschalgrips. I am very happy with his product.
 
So now you have a Russian TT33...its the beginning.......Tokagypt.....Super 12....Polish TT33 ....Sportowy .22 and the list goes on.....find a 9mm barrel and mags for your Russian.....welcome to the TT -33 club...
 
So now you have a Russian TT33...its the beginning.......Tokagypt.....Super 12....Polish TT33 ....Sportowy .22 and the list goes on.....find a 9mm barrel and mags for your Russian.....welcome to the TT -33 club...

There are drop-in 9mm barrels and mags? Where?
 
I bought one of these for my brother who is a WWII enthusiast. It is a neat piece of history but a real turd of a side arm in my opinion. It's still worth the money as an artifact that can make a lot of noise.
 
I bought one of these for my brother who is a WWII enthusiast. It is a neat piece of history but a real turd of a side arm in my opinion. It's still worth the money as an artifact that can make a lot of noise.

Learn to shoot it...

The TT-33 is a great gun comes in a cheap caliber to shoot (can find 9mm conversions and .22LR ones, although the ladder is rare) and they are very simple and robust. AND CHEAP. I find that I shoot it better with 1 hand then 2 (bigger, wrap around grips may also help) and you can paint the front sight white or orange to help you out as well.

I can hit torso sized targets 8/10 times out to 100 yards using modern ammo (non corrosive and re-loadable as well) with slow, aimed fired. With surplus its about 5-7/10 times. MORE then good enough at doing what it was made for.
 
I bought one of these for my brother who is a WWII enthusiast. It is a neat piece of history but a real turd of a side arm in my opinion. It's still worth the money as an artifact that can make a lot of noise.

My first TT-33 was a wartime production one and it gave me some grief at first so I can understand your opinion. After working the bugs out I found it to be a wonderful thing so I purchased another. My second one is from 1951 and has had zero problems. The craftsmanship of it is noticeably better as well.

The sights are military and a bit crude by modern standards but if you can learn to shoot a TT-33 well you can shoot anything.

I love the design of it. They copied a brilliant John Moses Browning design and then threw out anything they considered extra. Safety? What safety? Then they simplified it further for mass production. I think it is as simple as it could be. There isn't anything extra. Perfectly lean.
One thing about its design that I have always liked is that there is no planned obsolescence. You can study it and be confident that nothing was designed with failure or replacement in mind.

Then there is the cartridge. Bottlenecked, potent, in the magic 30 caliber and famous for being flat shooting. Did I mention that it is fun? Loud and a lightshow is fum :)

I can hit torso sized targets 8/10 times out to 100 yards using modern ammo (non corrosive and re-loadable as well) with slow, aimed fired. With surplus its about 5-7/10 times. MORE then good enough at doing what it was made for.

Smelie tells a great story about accuracy at a distance in very cold conditions. I look forward to seeing this for myself someday but none of the ranges I frequent have a 100m pistol bay. At shorter distances you don't have to lead a moving target much as the round is so zippy.

Great gun. I have another on the way.




Footnote. Not the story I was looking for but this will do:
Czech fellow, former Olympic shooter, showed up at the Battle of the Bulge match at CFB Shilo a few years ago.

He had what he called, "just an old piece of sh*t Tokarev".

Nobody paid much attention.

When the match started, he fired 4 fast rounds at the 400 yard targets, one each, and unloaded, then used his pistol on the 175s.

Team went under the razor wire, over the berm and into new positions.

He fired 4 fast rounds, one at each 400-yard target, and unloaded, engaged the close targets with a pistol.

Nobody around here says anything bad about the old "piece of sh*t" Tokarevs.
 
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