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New Model Blackhawk "l" Model Convertible Revolver: .357 Mag./9mm ·

NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK "L" MODEL CONVERTIBLE REVOLVER: .357 MAG./9MM ·
Anyone with any experience with these . the little woman would like a revolver
(we have a few semi auto) , and i thought this would be a good start as we can use 3 different calibre in it. next question who has the best price . wholesale sports has them @ $549.
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Wholesale Sports has the best prices for Ruger handguns that I have ever found.

What is the bore diameter of the barrel on this L model the reason I ask is that the diameter of a 9mm is .355" and shouldn't seal in the bore of a barrel designed for a .357" bullet.

I have tried .451" bullets in my 45 Colts that take .452" and the results are very poor with just that .001" diameter difference they do not seal in the bore of the barrel.

I would suggest getting a stainless steel 4 5/8" barreled Ruger New Model Vaquero in 38 Special/357 Mag instead and not risk the bore diameter issue of the 9mm.
 
Extra 9mm cylinder

The extra 9mm cylinder seems like a good idea, but it doesn't really work. The barrel is designed to stabilze a 38/357 bullet, so the lands and grooves are much larger than can stabilize a 9mm bullet.
So, most 9mm bullets in a .357 diameter bore slide down the barrel and do not stabilize. Most keyhole on the target.
The nice people at Ruger do make a better setup in the 45Colt Blackhawk with a 45acp cylinder. Both different calibers are stabilized in the bore because 45acp and 45Colt are .451/.452. The trade-off is a much heavier bullet than the 9mm.
 
Not quite right there as I stated earlier .451" bullets that are designed for the 45 ACP do not seal properly in a .452" bore 45 Colt handgun.

How do I know this?

I have 2 Ruger Bisley Vaquero's in 45 colt and have loaded several hundred 45 Colts with the .451" bullets and the results were that I still have several hundred of these loads because they do not work the blowby is terrible I'll never do it again.
 
Camp Cook said:
Not quite right there as I stated earlier .451" bullets that are designed for the 45 ACP do not seal properly in a .452" bore 45 Colt handgun.

How do I know this?

I have 2 Ruger Bisley Vaquero's in 45 colt and have loaded several hundred 45 Colts with the .451" bullets and the results were that I still have several hundred of these loads because they do not work the blowby is terrible I'll never do it again.
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Here is excellent article: http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/archive_tech_notes.htm/59
 
That article was a good read thanks for posting.

I have been using Beartooth bullets for several years now from the 280WFNGC's up to the 355gr WLNGC's in my 45 Colts and up to his 405gr WLNGC's in my 454 Casull's they are awesomely accurate bullets that do not lead up the bore of my guns.

I bought a reamer set from Brownells and reamed my cylinders myself and did a poor boys trigger job on the triggers http://www.gunblast.com/Poorboy.htm and had a fellow at my club do a tune up on them.

My 5.5" barreled Ruger Bisley Vaquero's in 45 Colt are extremely accurate out to 100 yards if I do my part and use bullets that seal properly in the bore of the barrel.

Here's a picture of them.

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Once again I would recommend the 4 5/8" barreled New Vaquero's at least look at them before you jump into the single action world.

I know you are looking at the 38/357 but if I was to buy a handgun for my wife it would be one of the stainless steel New Vaquero in 45 Colt and I would load from 200gr - 250gr cast RNFP's @ 600 - 700fps and the top loads would be Beartooth 280gr WFNGC's @ 850 - 900fps.
 
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Camp Cook said:
Wholesale Sports has the best prices for Ruger handguns that I have ever found.

What is the bore diameter of the barrel on this L model the reason I ask is that the diameter of a 9mm is .355" and shouldn't seal in the bore of a barrel designed for a .357" bullet.

I have tried .451" bullets in my 45 Colts that take .452" and the results are very poor with just that .001" diameter difference they do not seal in the bore of the barrel.

I would suggest getting a stainless steel 4 5/8" barreled Ruger New Model Vaquero in 38 Special/357 Mag instead and not risk the bore diameter issue of the 9mm.
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hatman1793 said:
The extra 9mm cylinder seems like a good idea, but it doesn't really work. The barrel is designed to stabilze a 38/357 bullet, so the lands and grooves are much larger than can stabilize a 9mm bullet.
So, most 9mm bullets in a .357 diameter bore slide down the barrel and do not stabilize. Most keyhole on the target.
The nice people at Ruger do make a better setup in the 45Colt Blackhawk with a 45acp cylinder. Both different calibers are stabilized in the bore because 45acp and 45Colt are .451/.452. The trade-off is a much heavier bullet than the 9mm.
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I have heard many stories about accuracy with the .357/9mm convertibles, are you folks speaking from experience or just hearsay?
I own a .357/9mm Blackhawk and it shoots both 9mm and .357/38 just fine.
 
I've looked at that gun with curiousity. There has to be more people who've actually used one. What does or doesn't work in other guns, is great information, to be sure. But I'd like to hear from more people with Direct experience, with this particular firearm.
 
I have one, no problem shooting 9mm in it, I love the gun and being that I have a 9mm auto I always have ammo to shoot in it.
 
Thanks for the input guys .I also did some searching on the web which also influenced my decision.
I went ahead and order`d one for the little woman for her birthday in June . so in a few weeks, im sure there will be a range report.
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