New Moose Rifle ... New & Improved w/ VX lll

stubblejumper said:
I have never found a need for a 50mm scope.If I want a brighter scope,I go with a scope with higher quality lenses and coatings.

I can't agree with this more. Higher quality scope not only brings in more light they are also clearer.

50mm scopes, on the other hand, are usually heavier, longer and bulkier to carry around.

Danny
 
There are advantages to a 50mm scope... they do transmit more light... they do provide a larger exit pupil.
Disadvantages are weight and size. Mounting hieght is usually not that much of an issue if the proper base and rings are used... half a centimeter is the real hieght difference to the eye.
 
I am sure the moose will hit the ground weather it be a elite 50mm or a 1.5x4 33mm tube Kahles, or leupold.
With moose you have time, 90% of the time to set up and make the shot.
If it were a eastern Ontario deer rig thats a different storry with optics.
As for light unless you have 70-80 year old eyes and are young like mine with good vision , I realy do no notice to much diffence between my higher quality optics vs the elites for LIGHT at dusk or dawn.
But I would still take the gun any day any place.
As much bashing as the T-3s gets on looks I like them and they will shoot with accuracy up against some of the finest rifles ever made.
 
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There are advantages to a 50mm scope... they do transmit more light... they do provide a larger exit pupil.

Of course that is only true when comparing scopes with identical lenses and coatings.A high quality 40mm lens can transmit more light than a 50mm lens of lower quality glass and coatings.Numbers alone do not determine brightness.
 
stubblejumper said:
Of course that is only true when comparing scopes with identical lenses and coatings.A high quality 40mm lens can transmit more light than a 50mm lens of lower quality glass and coatings.Numbers alone do not determine brightness.

+1

we compared my VX3 36mm scope next to a friends Bushy trophy 50mm scope and there was no contest.

I prefer my scopes to be as low as possible, so exculdes most above 40mm.
 
we compared my VX3 36mm scope next to a friends Bushy trophy 50mm scope and there was no contest.

Do yourself a favour and don't compare your vxIII to the ziess conquest.I did and then ended up buying four ziess scopes.Then I compared a swarovski 3x10x42 to my ziess scopes and I ended up buying four swarovskis.Comparing a 3.5x10x50 vxIII to my swarovski 3x10x42 at last light,brightness is a draw but the edge in clarity goes to the swarovski.Thankfully,I haven't found a brighter or clearer 1" scope than the swarovski.
 
I compared a AV 3-10x42 against a FXIII 6x42, and cant see how the Swarvo is 2.5x as good for the $



Is the VXII 3X9X40 more than 2X as good as the Elite 3200 3x9x40?Using your logic it should be since it costs more than twice as much.Is the VXIII 3.5x10x40 3x as good as the elite 3200 3x9x40?
 
stubblejumper said:
Is the VXII 3X9X40 more than 2X as good as the Elite 3200 3x9x40?Using your logic it should be since it costs more than twice as much.Is the VXIII 3.5x10x40 3x as good as the elite 3200 3x9x40?

That's exactly why I buy the elites. If the 3200 is only $200-$300 worth of scope, then the VXlll should be worth 25% - 50% more, not 100% - 150% more.;) For me it's about the value. I know its not a high end scope for the $$ I pay.
 
stubblejumper said:
Is the VXII 3X9X40 more than 2X as good as the Elite 3200 3x9x40?Using your logic it should be since it costs more than twice as much.Is the VXIII 3.5x10x40 3x as good as the elite 3200 3x9x40?


Knowing a company like Leupold stands behind their product is worth the extra money in my opinion...unlike Bushnell, customer service is not their repor.
 
And my reasoning for spending the extra money on a swarovski is that they offer a brighter,clearer scope than the vxIII.That extra brightness and clarity,could mean the difference between a clean kill or a missed or wounded animal.That to me is worth the extra money.Everyone has their own priorities,even if other people don't agree.
 
I would have went with a 7mm-08 or a 30.06 with a beautiful wooden stock and a 40mm scope.Just my preference,otherwise you have a nice rig there.:)
 
stubblejumper said:
Is the VXII 3X9X40 more than 2X as good as the Elite 3200 3x9x40?Using your logic it should be since it costs more than twice as much.Is the VXIII 3.5x10x40 3x as good as the elite 3200 3x9x40?
funny guy

you get to a point where your optics are high enough quality that once you still have the capability to make a shot before/after legal shooting hours (1 hr before/after sunrise here in BC), your scope is bright enough, clear enough, crisp enough, etc etc, then whatever beats it is a 'moot point'.

Im not knockin the AV, its really one hell of a scope. of course, it should be, for $1500+

;)
 
you get to a point where your optics are high enough quality that once you still have the capability to make a shot before/after legal shooting hours (1 hr before/after sunrise here in BC), your scope is bright enough, clear enough, crisp enough, etc etc, then whatever beats it is a 'moot point'.



I have passed up two shots that were within legal hours because I could not see the animal well enough in the scope to be sure of it's position and proper crosshairs placement.In both cases the scope that I was using was the varix III 3.5x10x40.The 3x10x42 swarovski is noticeably brighter than even the new vxIII 3.5x10x40 so if I had the swarovski mounted,I may have been able to take the shots.And for the record,I bought four of the swarovski 3x10x42 scopes for $1150 each which was about $500 more than the vxIII 3.5x10x40.Or in other words the same difference in price between between the elite 3200 3x9x40 and the vxIII 3.5x10x40.
 
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