New Moose Rifle

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Not sure if anyone has seen my thread in the general section regarding the smoking deal I got on a M700 XCRii in 300 RUM from CT. This new purchase has got me exited about my moose hunt and pushing me to get it ready for rifle opener. I am planning on building it up and am looking for some thoughts on what stock I should look into. I have had great result from both Bell & Carlson and H-S Precision on my target/varmint rifles, but when it comes to my moose hunt, I tend to travel a lot throughout the days and want something a little on the lighter side. I have yet to shoot it, but I can imagine the factory stock will not take it too well, it feels hollow, lol.

Any thoughts/input is greatly appreciated.

Thx, Cumminsdsl
 
Any thoughts/input is greatly appreciated.
Moose aren't that hard to kill, so unless you will be shooting them at extreme ranges you will probably discover that don't need a 300RUM. Most are shot at close ranges.

I would be more interested in a 300WM or 30/06 for this application if I was to use a 30cal for moose.
 
Wow. Just, Wow. A .300RUM to harvest an animal that's easily been taken by .303s and .30-30s for a century. Boy, that's progress!
I'd be excited, too, on such a great deal. I'm sure CT was pleased enough to sell it to you. Did they sell you any fishing tackle, BTW?
 
I would shoot it first then see if you want a lighter 300RUM. The 300RUM, like dozens of smaller and larger caliber guns is a great moose gun. Enjoy your new rifle and good luck on your hunt.
 
The RUM is more than adequate for moose hunting if you can handle the recoil if will work fine...have fun and good luck, its not a hunting rifle until it has a little blood on it! :)
 
.300 RUM is an excellent moose cartridge... more than necessary, but not too much.

I would try the rifle as is before you make changes... you may find that you want to go "heavier" not "lighter."
 
Wow. Just, Wow. A .300RUM to harvest an animal that's easily been taken by .303s and .30-30s for a century. Boy, that's progress!
I'd be excited, too, on such a great deal. I'm sure CT was pleased enough to sell it to you. Did they sell you any fishing tackle, BTW?

Moose aren't that hard to kill, so unless you will be shooting them at extreme ranges you will probably discover that don't need a 300RUM. Most are shot at close ranges.

I would be more interested in a 300WM or 30/06 for this application if I was to use a 30cal for moose.

Moose hunting is not new to me, dropped one with a 30/30, the majority with a 30/06, and even the odd one with a compound. It was a great deal, and in some cases it may come in handy at my one stand where my farthest shot is 410yards where they do tend to frequent, or when I head west next year for an elk hunt with my chum, and if it does turn out to be a little over kill, I'll make it a range queen. I am not planning on shooting rockets, probably something a little more tame.
 
and if it does turn out to be a little over kill, I'll make it a range queen.
While there is no such thing as "over kill" there are many who do realize that the big magnums get a little tiring/expensive/hard on the head to shoot and often do opt for a smaller cartridge that will do the same job. As one old river pirate once told me .... "The 300RUM is just too much of a good thing."

I shot a 375 on and off for almost 20yrs. Took two moose and a caribou with it only to find that I didn't enjoy shooting as much. I was offered a fair deal to sell and did so, replacing it with a much funner gun to shot in the form of a 358Win. If that doesn't work out, I will go to the back up 30/06. Both are a lot more enjoyable to carry and shoot and will do anything I needed the 375 to do.
 
Congrats on finding a great deal. I like finding those unexpectantly, too bad most times for me the next cheque is not in the bank yet, lol.

The 300RUM is definitely a thumper on Game and on the range, though I doubt you'll remember the recoil on game at all.

I think these hot .30s sneakily fall into the catergory that most of us still consider just another somewhat average big game rifle, but forget they are pushing into punishing territory on the bench during sight in or practice session's.
Chuck Hawks recoil chart shows it at around 33.0ft/lbs of recoil. The .270Win in a light rifle I'm finding these days to be stiff enough at 17.0ft/lbs for me. My old 7mmMag 175 Moose loads were screaming at 3050fps so around 28ft/lbs. The 300RUM would definitely be nasty for my shoulder on the bench any day of the week.

I'm sure it will shine on those 300 yard shots or more, being able to still deliver lot's of hydrostatic shock and probably a downing shot on a standing chest hit moose quickly and what some consider a more humane dispatching. Some will tell you just make a light hole and they will eventually die, and they always do, but I believe that's a little archaic on the largest North American deer in this day and age, unless you limit yourself to the shortest ranges possible.

Be careful with your barrel during sight in's, practice and load development,..you probably already know this,.. allowing plenty of cooling between shot's. Some say it can develop accuracy debilitating throat erosion in as little as 300 rounds if fired quickly due to it's large powder charge and small bore. It's definitely the king of the 30Magnums and therefore would be considered the crème de la crème of the long range Large Deer family rounds.

My old 7mmMag still has a decent bore on many more rounds, and they were hot loads, but it was a Big game rifle only so as little bench work as possible after sight in. Shoot the RUM the same way and it should give you years of reliable Big game downing even way over there into the next clear cut.;)
 
I guess the big question is do you reload? I load 200 gn ABs in mine but my son prefers 165 ABs in his as he doesn't like the recoil that mine has. (identical rifles) The wonderful thing about the 300 RUM is you can load it from 308 ballistics to screaming hellfire 30 cal kill everything ballistics. It is an obnoxious kicker off the bench with full blown max 200 gn loads, but it is also a 5-600 mtr killing machine on any NA big game. If you can shoot it well there is little out there that compares with it. I have been playing with this round for more than 35 years, long before Rem ever legitimized it or even before the Imperial magnum came out and only in the last 10-15 years have we had powders that can reach the full potential of this case to bore size. It is an amazing cartridge that kills like lightning and will do it as far as you can see. Use nothing but the best bullets money can buy, as this cartridge will tear cheapo bullets to pieces, I like Nosler ABs and Parts, Barnes X bullets tend to copper foul way too bad at the velocities this cartridge is capable of, Swift A-frames is another good choice, as are heavy Matrix bullets. I personally think this cartridge is best served with a 200+ gn bullet, but like I said my boy uses 165s and has killed a truckload of game with it including an 8 1/2 ft grizzly..........
 
I had to find the other thread to get the price. Smokin' deal is right.

I'd try shooting it the way it is and see what you think. I've got Bell and Carlson and HS Precision stocks, and while they are better than some factory stocks Id just skip right up to a McMillan. My RUM is a custom Sako with McMillan Sako Hunter stock and Gaillard barrel. The Remington Hunter is about the same thing with a Remington inlet.

Although I prefer the 300 Win, the RUM is a great cartridge. I used one on a cull which is just about the worst misapplication I can think of but you can get a lifetimes worth of shooting/testing in a couple days. Way too loud, too much barrel heat and the ranges were short enough that that extra velocity was pretty much wasted, but as a normal hunting rifle it is quite impressive. I shot a water buffalo and scrub bull with it too, to stress test the 180 grain Accubond.
 
Thanks for the help guys, its greatly appreciated. I am planning on getting a scope mounted and trying a few rounds and see how the SPS stock holds up before I order aftermarket.

So since the ultra mag is kinda new to me, Are there any thoughts on glass? I won't be shooting full power loads out of it anytime soon, but want something to handle for when I do. I'm leaning towards Zeiss or Leupold maybe a Swarovski.

I mounted a Nikon monarch on my buddy's 300 win mag and it seem to hold up good, three years and still maintains zero, just a little unsure about these ultras.
 
So since the ultra mag is kinda new to me, Are there any thoughts on glass? I won't be shooting full power loads out of it anytime soon, but want something to handle for when I do. I'm leaning towards Zeiss or Leupold maybe a Swarovski.

IMO - Leupold VX-3 2.5-10X40mm... matte/duplex
 
I had two custom 300RUM rifles, and I for one, would not want a light 300RUM. With #5 contour fluted barrels, and McMillan stocks with Decellerators installed, recoil was quite tolerable, much, much more pleasant than a factory Remington 300RUM with a sporter weight barrel that I fired. I had Swarovski 3-10x42 scopes on both of my rifles, and I was very pleased with them.
 
IMO - Leupold VX-3 2.5-10X40mm... matte/duplex

X2...............Both my son's and mine are 700 SPSS and we have never had any stock problems with them. I haven't used mine that much but the kid has fired 1000s of rounds from his without any glitches at all. Some people say the forend is a little noodley but this is easily fixed by hogging out the webbing in the forend barrel channel and glassing in a piece of 5/16" thread rod........stiffens them right up and adds a little weight which doesn't hurt either.
 
Congrats! Nice to see someone with enough gun. I would much sooner hunt with with the ultra mag than someone in camp with a 7.62-39. I used a 300wm and loved it. Also used a 375 &280. Enough to do both shoulders and pass through is what I want on all NA big game. Good bullets and placement. Good luck.
 
Thanks for the help guys, its greatly appreciated. I am planning on getting a scope mounted and trying a few rounds and see how the SPS stock holds up before I order aftermarket.

So since the ultra mag is kinda new to me, Are there any thoughts on glass? I won't be shooting full power loads out of it anytime soon, but want something to handle for when I do. I'm leaning towards Zeiss or Leupold maybe a Swarovski.

I mounted a Nikon monarch on my buddy's 300 win mag and it seem to hold up good, three years and still maintains zero, just a little unsure about these ultras.

I had a Monarch on a .375 Ruger and the same scope on a light .450 Nitro Express. They will hold just fine.
 
While there is no such thing as "over kill" there are many who do realize that the big magnums get a little tiring/expensive/hard on the head to shoot and often do opt for a smaller cartridge that will do the same job. As one old river pirate once told me .... "The 300RUM is just too much of a good thing."

I shot a 375 on and off for almost 20yrs. Took two moose and a caribou with it only to find that I didn't enjoy shooting as much. I was offered a fair deal to sell and did so, replacing it with a much funner gun to shot in the form of a 358Win. If that doesn't work out, I will go to the back up 30/06. Both are a lot more enjoyable to carry and shoot and will do anything I needed the 375 to do.

Subjective feelings and experiences don't work for everyone else who want their own experiences. Otherwise we'd all be shooting BP and arrows...

In my experience, a .340 Wby works wonders on moose!

My current moose gun is a .45-70 or a more recent 9.3 X 62. Why? Just because!

And I think a .300 RUM would be a fabulous rifle for moose from spittin' distance to 600 meters... Ha! Where I've hunted moose you could see a thousand meters in clearcuts. And at times not 10.d:h:

Bob

www.bigbores.ca
 
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