New norico broke toggle lock
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I believe that's the point he was making...could not get an ATT, so only sent the slide.
easyrider604
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I am not an expert in this regard as timing barrels in 1911s is something I do not feel confident to do...but would you not require the frame to ensure it is timed correctly (i.e. correct barrel linkage?)
If the wrong link is put in, then the timing will be wrong. Again I am not particularly comfortable doing barrel work on 1911s and limit myself to simpler operations like fitting safeties and triggers and sears, but I can't think of a way to check barrel timing without the frame. That is not to say that others don't have a way, but I don't know how that would be accomplished personally.
Although I guess that presumes that barrel timing on Norincos is actually tested at the factory. They may well just have a single barrel link size, which should work in 99% of their barrel-frame combos, and if it doesn't, new gun time.
That said, of the 3 Norinco 1911s I've owned, barrel timing was actually fine in all cases.
yes me too, im still waiting for the parts. my best guess is that they will just send me the barrel of another of the same exact model, which they have in stock still. but im definatly not the expert here, hopefully i see the package this week!
That seems probable...I have a hard time imagining Norinco stocking a bunch of different link lengths and carefully testing each one. They must just have a single formula that works on the vast majority of their 1911s, as long as the tolerances don't stack up too hard as various tools wear out etc.
update, canadaammo has been awsome! good crew working there! they recieved the slide friday, and replaced the barrel, guide rod, recoil spring and end cap (just to freshen things up) . the whole gun was not required to fix the issue as it was just a faulty part. i should get it early this week. i really enjoy my norinco. cant wait!
killer1963daddy
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let us know how it shoots! and thanx for sharing!
Looks like a poor design all around IMO. A single piece barrel/locking lug seems to be the way to go. Just saying..
TDC
Looks like a poor design all around IMO. A single piece barrel/locking lug seems to be the way to go. Just saying..
TDC
What you see in the pictures in this thread is how good ol' JMB designed it. And the link like this is used in all the 1911's ever produced, not just those from China.
easyrider604
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The link should not be highly stressed if the barrel/link/slide/frame fits are correct.
All the link does is guide the barrel in the proper arc as its lugs lock and unlock unto the slide. There should be no stress on the link due to actual firing.
In well fitted guns, good links last a long long time.
That is why I recommended sending the entire gun. They need to check for correct frame/slide/barrel/link fits.
All the link does is guide the barrel in the proper arc as its lugs lock and unlock unto the slide. There should be no stress on the link due to actual firing.
In well fitted guns, good links last a long long time.
That is why I recommended sending the entire gun. They need to check for correct frame/slide/barrel/link fits.
I'm aware of that, which is why such a design concerns me. If easyrider is correct(as I presume he is) then the interchangeability of the 1911 is more of a myth than a reality if you need to "fit" the slide to frame to barrel. Sounds like the best design ever to me. Even if the link sees no stress, its still additional parts that are unnecessary when compared to more modern designs.
TDC
There is not much in the way of casual parts interchangeability in 1911s generally, that's for sure.
I love the 1911, but you definitely have to be prepared for what you're getting in to if you want it to do things like feed different bullet profiles reliably, have a glass rod trigger, shoot with extreme accuracy, go 2000 rounds between stoppages while getting dirty and stomped on, and last 25,000 rounds between rebuilds.
It's a beautiful pistol, but like an antique car, it's going to demand a lot from the user if their performance expectations are high.
I love the 1911, but you definitely have to be prepared for what you're getting in to if you want it to do things like feed different bullet profiles reliably, have a glass rod trigger, shoot with extreme accuracy, go 2000 rounds between stoppages while getting dirty and stomped on, and last 25,000 rounds between rebuilds.
It's a beautiful pistol, but like an antique car, it's going to demand a lot from the user if their performance expectations are high.
