New Norinco M-14

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I read every topic in this forum about cleaning a new Norinco M-14 and I downloaded the FM23-8 Manual, but I still have a few question that I hope you guys can help me with:

- How do you get the trigger mechinism out, I tried and it just doesn't move?
- What kind of lub do you reccomend, I use WD40 on all my other firearms, is it suitable for this firearm or do you recommend something better.
- Why do you not lub the gas piston an cylinder?
- Do you clean everything with Simply Green (except the stock) or just the barrel
- What parts do you lub after you have cleaned the gun throughly
- What kind of bore cleaner do you reccomend?
- Can you use a Bore Guide for you cleaning rod with the muzzle break on?

Your help would be greatly appreicated, because this is the first semi auto rifle that I owned.


Kyrol
 
Pull out and up on the trigger guard for the M-14 with the bolt closed. Trigger should pop out. Stay away from WD-40. I use a good quality synthetic automotive lube I get from Cdn. Tire. With the M-14 you use more grease than you do gun oil. You don't need to go to hell with the lube either! You want to keep oil/lube out of your gas system. If you don't they'll attract dirt, carbon deposits and unburned powder that will eventually gum up the works and you'll start getting failures to cycle, etc... Read the FM manual, IIRC there is a page or two there regarding cleaning/lubing. You don't need a lot.

If you want to learn more about the M14 buy a copy of Scott Duff's book from girlsguns&fastbikes, our resident M14 parts guru. It is a great investment. I've misplaced my copy, so I believe I'll be picking up another shortly as well. Its basically "The" M-14 Bible! Hope this helps.
 
[/quote]If you want to learn more about the M14 buy a copy of Scott Duff's book from girlsguns&fastbikes, our resident M14 parts guru. It is a great investment. I've misplaced my copy, so I believe I'll be picking up another shortly as well. Its basically "The" M-14 Bible! Hope this helps.[/quote]


I ordered Jerry Kuhnhausen "THE U.S. .30 CALIBER GAS OPERATED SERVICE MANUALS" is this a good book? Thanks for your help it is greatly needed, I going to clean my rifle tonight and take it out to the range Saturday. Please keep the info coming because I am new to semi auto rifle and every little bit helps.

Kyrol
 
The M14 needs no spray oil lubricants.

Use a good grease such as Lubriplate.

The Gas piston is not lubricated.This was designed as a dry system.If you oil it, gunk will build up in the gas cylinder and clog the gas port.

A bore guide can be made from cutting down a 12 guage shotgun hull and drilling out the primer a hair larger then your cleaning rod.The shotgun hull will slide perfectly over the Flash suppressor.

The Jerry Kuhnhausen book will probablly be a little over your head right noe as it is a VERY in depth book on modifying, setting up, and building M14s.

The Scott Duff book would be a better read for you at this time.

SKBY.
 
Wd 40 should never be used on any firearm especially one being stored. The parent company recently changed formulas to a more enviromentally safe formula. If you leave WD in a firearm there is a good chance it will dry partially causing sticky gum that will jam a gun quickly. Always use a lube meant for firearms.

Hey my first post on this forum! :D
 
Lose the WD40....you need grease, contrary to what everyone says about not lubricating the gas piston ...I do ,I use CLP Break Free. I read once in Precision Shooting about a Camp Perry Coach that always checked the teams rifles by pulling back on the Op arm and listen if the piston would move freely when he tilted the rifle up and down , he would always lube the pistons . I do lube but very little, just wipe it with the oil and clean every couple of hundred rounds and I've put 1000's tru it so far. Not saying it 's better...but it works for me
 
To remove the trigger assy ... #### the action and allow the bolt to close under control; put the safety on. Push rear of trigger guard back and rotate up- away from the stock... the hole in the rear of the trigger guard will accept the neck of a 7.62 empty casing and this can be used as a lever to ease the opening of the trigger guard...don't yank as it will (once released) open quickly and you may find that the action will fall out ....AP
 
I'm so glad that we've got a wealth of experience here ! Saves me a pile of typing.

Yup, grease, ANY grease for the bolt raceways, bolt lugs, op rod raceway, op rod / op rod guide under the barrel, hammer nose, and trigger hooks/sear interface.

And of course a light coat of gun oil on the exterior metal surfaces.

Cheers,
Barney
 
Pilgrim:

This just in from WD40's web site:

What does WD-40 contain?
While the ingredients in WD-40 are secret, we can tell you what WD-40 does NOT contain. WD-40 does not contain silicone, kerosene, water, wax, graphite, chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), or any known cancer-causing agents.
 
kyrol60, where are you in alberta- there may be a m14 /m1a/m305 shootist near you - a quick meet may solve your problems
 
Regarding the WD40, my experience in general is that it tends to promote (or at least permit) rust in the long run. I've soaked gun parts in it to loosen up crud, but I always use brake-cleaner (non-chlorinated) afterwards, then apply a suitable gun lubricant.

Yes, you will need grease for your rifle. I use the wide-temperature Shooters Choice red grease, but any good grease will do. In terms of a suitable oil for wiping down the park'd finish, and lubricating the trigger mechanism, etc., I recommend Clenzoil, although any good gun oil will do the job. What I like about Clenzoil is that it really does seem to inhibit rust, so it's great if you're going to be storing your gun for extended periods without shooting/cleaning/re-oiling it.
 
I just got a 22inch M305 last year, and am waiting for my Shorty. Being a noob with these rifles, I did some research and am going to use Lubriplate 130A grease on both rifle. YouTube has a good video on lubrication points and how to clean. He mentioned Tetra grease as well. A Weapons Tech I know said M1's and M14's will eat themselves if you just use oil on metal bearing parts. I couldn't find Lubriplate 130A locally, I ordered from skygeeks.
 
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