The system is pretty convenient, so is saving your licence and tags on your phone... but not having a single issued tag attached to the animal at the scene of the kill is just inviting people to kill multiple unrecorded animals... after all these years of stressing the proper and immediate attachment of tags to game, it is ludicrous that they would drop the ball this way.
New Ontario electronic tags
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In NY State when you harvest a Deer or Bear, the tag must be filled out immediately & completely, but is not required to be attached to the animal until back at camp or vehicle.
This prevents tag from being lost when hauling harvest out from bush. System works goods, you still receive actual tags, not printed paper.
Recently purchased online an ON Deer Licence, Bear Licence and submitted for Antlerless Deer Draw, printed them out, easy process.
This prevents tag from being lost when hauling harvest out from bush. System works goods, you still receive actual tags, not printed paper.
Recently purchased online an ON Deer Licence, Bear Licence and submitted for Antlerless Deer Draw, printed them out, easy process.
They made this very common sense.... You can harvest any animals you (or your group) has tags for...
You don't immediately have to attach it anymore, which makes party hunting easier, and more convenient if one or more of your party is going home early.... Now you don't have to call somebody to bring you a tag if you don't want to use yours.
Quite simply, One tag per animal.... and you are less likely to be hassled with the new system.
As long as you have a tag issued to you or your group (and a very loose definition of "in your possession") you are legal to hunt.
Poachers don't care...
Hunting parties have it easier...
They lessened the dumb rules about immediately attaching the tag...
Yet I have heard more complaints about this because people can't seem to understand pretty simple concepts, and people are claiming that it makes poaching easier?
How can it get ay easier than not following any of the rules at all?
You don't immediately have to attach it anymore, which makes party hunting easier, and more convenient if one or more of your party is going home early.... Now you don't have to call somebody to bring you a tag if you don't want to use yours.
Quite simply, One tag per animal.... and you are less likely to be hassled with the new system.
As long as you have a tag issued to you or your group (and a very loose definition of "in your possession") you are legal to hunt.
Poachers don't care...
Hunting parties have it easier...
They lessened the dumb rules about immediately attaching the tag...
Yet I have heard more complaints about this because people can't seem to understand pretty simple concepts, and people are claiming that it makes poaching easier?
How can it get ay easier than not following any of the rules at all?
I'm not from ottawa so I don't party hunt, can't really say the perks of the new system but if you can thumbs up.
To me, all i see this doing is causing people to take multiple animals with a single tag.
Shoot deer/moose bring it to garage/shed for processing freeze, rinse and repeat.
I could see alot of freezers being filled off one tag in my area.
I like how we're all pretending there weren't rampant stories of "You know, if you just call in and say you lost your tag they'll send you another." before this new system was introduced.
Personally this system makes my life easier and will still result in me harvesting one animal (or less) per tag. People without morals weren't deterred by the old system and this won't change anything.
Personally this system makes my life easier and will still result in me harvesting one animal (or less) per tag. People without morals weren't deterred by the old system and this won't change anything.
If you can't see the problem here, you are out to lunch. Some people are going to hunt as usual, transport their game back home and if they have not been checked, head back out for more... with the old system, the single issue tag has been used and attached to the animal and cannot be reused... not the case anymore... this system will be abused... and by many people that would never do so without a valid tag on their person. Enjoy it now, because I am sure that this will be short lived.
1963beretta
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I think the point here is poachers are going to poach. But some hunters who have traditionally cut and attached their tags to birds in the past could be less inclined to buy a second tag if they are still in possesion of a tag that wasnt required to be cut.
This new system is putting a lot of faith in hunters to do the right thing, which is great. But I know I’ve met far too many hunters who, with the right opportunity, could and would be inclined to not do the right thing. And thats where the problem may potentially lie.
Its a sad reality, but a reality nonetheless
This new system is putting a lot of faith in hunters to do the right thing, which is great. But I know I’ve met far too many hunters who, with the right opportunity, could and would be inclined to not do the right thing. And thats where the problem may potentially lie.
Its a sad reality, but a reality nonetheless
Face Palm for sure... if you can't see it, I won't waste anymore time... but for the others... I am not going to poach... ever... but if you don't know that everything is on a sliding scale... some people have integrity and do not require controls, others are going to break every rule they can get away with... in between are some that are kept in check by thoughtful regulation... why do you think we have laws and legislation... humans can be selfish users... it would be utopian if that weren't so...
Trimmer 905
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I had one incident many years ago after hauling a late afternoon bull 4 kms with ATV's back to the vehicles through really rough country and a swamp in the dark. We weren't back to the trucks 5 minutes when a CO showed up and asked to check the tag. We had put the tag on the rear leg,but,sure enough,when he went to check,it had come off somewhere along the trail. He left his deputy with the Moose carcass and three of the four hunters and demanded I retrace the trail back with him until it was found. I found it on the trail in the mud almost back at the kill site. It was after midnight when we got back to the trucks and 3AM when we finally got back to camp. I,for one,am very glad to have the "tag at the kill site" requirement removed.
That happened with the old tags too. You're not allowed to be in possession of multiple tags and you're required to notch your tag at the time of the kill. Not attaching your tag doesnt mean you aren't using it. The oddest thing about this new system is how many really intelligent people I know and respect (both on here an on real life) pretending like this system is advantageous to poachers who never notched tags, and rarely buy them at all.
Runningfool
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- SW Ontario
Your definition of poachers must be a little more narrow than mine. Sure, someone who never buys a tag and harvests animals is a poacher and this new system won’t be advantageous to him. But consider the guy who buys a turkey licence and prints off a few copies (which he couldn’t do under the old plastic tag system)...he takes one with him in the field and leaves the rest tucked away at home...goes out opening day and shoots a bird, pulls out his printed tag and notches it at the kill site, drives home and dresses the bird. The next morning he grabs another tag from his stack at home and repeats the process. This guy is also a poacher in my books and this new system is obviously advantageous to him, wouldn’t you agree?
