New Ontario electronic tags
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They're both poachers. You become a poacher the second you print a second tag. MNR makes it pretty clear that it's illegal to be in possession of multiple copies. Also, as I mentioned earlier. "If you just call and say you lost your tag they'll send you a new one." Wasn't exactly a closely guarded secret,
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Runningfool
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Now you are just being obtuse. Calling in and telling a live person at the ministry that you lost your tag and providing your name, outdoors card number, etc. vs. Select number of copies to print: 12. There is clearly more potential for abuse with this new system.
Trimmer 905
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There's always "whispers",especially,in small towns where it's an established pastime. Investigations reveal that 99% of the "whispers" are just that.
blasted_saber
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I respect you as a poster more than almost anyone else on this site but it greatly concerns me to see you among the many digging in behind the idea that a piece of yellow plastic is what keeps people from turning into poachers.
That is not it... picture it this way...
How comfortable do you suppose a person would be transporting a game animal without a valid licence or tag?
Now how comfortable are they transporting a game animal with licence and notched tag on their person? They arrive home without being checked, store away the animal and head back out into the field and do it again with a photocopy...
Many people who would not risk transporting without the proper paperwork, would do it if they had verifiable documentation.
The argument here is not whether this system will turn an honest upright outdoorsman into a poacher, but whether or not someone who has teetered on the edge of the rules now feels comfortable to cross the line... I believe this system will be abused by a far greater number than the old "single issue tag affixed at the site of the kill."
To be specific, there are people I know well that I refuse to hunt with because they are fast and loose with the rules, and I have heard discussions already that are disturbing... and while I challenge the attitude and thinking, I am not going to be in the field with them... and they are just the tip of the iceberg.
I think this is an accurate assessment.
They will pay 1x but take more than 1 animal.
Justifying it with "I'm not really poaching because i'm doing it in season for the right type of game"
These are the people that wouldn't break a lock to steal something but would take it if it was unlocked.
1963beretta
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I agree with this 100% but I also agree with Hoyt that there are a big number of honest hunters that walk a fine line and remained honest simply because they didnt want to get caught with an animal without a tag. Its these people who could now be tempted to bring an animal home, process it, and then return to the field to repeat the process. It will no doubt happen with turkey’s...I can make a list of about a dozen people who will do this exact thing because they are freely saying they will.
Honour systems always allow for people to act in ways that are not honourable. And since its that time a year, a perfect example is our income tax filing. I dont believe for one second that all of you cant say you know of someone who is trying to get away with something to try and reduce their final tax bill.
Im still trying to figure out how to securely attach my paper license to a dead wet animal. The mnr call in line said its ok to tie it with string as long as it remains legible.
At least with the plastic gluey tag it stayed on and was almost water proof. So if i stop on my way home for food at the local diner i must affix my tag. In the back of an open bed truck doing 120kmh down the hiway
At least with the plastic gluey tag it stayed on and was almost water proof. So if i stop on my way home for food at the local diner i must affix my tag. In the back of an open bed truck doing 120kmh down the hiway
madtrapper143
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True here. Even if you don't have to affix the seal if you accompany the animal, how do you know you are always going to be near it? I think I will be tagging at the kill site/time as usual to save the hassle of tagging later at an inconvenient time. The paper tag looks like it will be a "joy" to notch out the dates and times.
Darryl
