NEW or USED on EE, which is the BETTER BUY???

yodave said:
every year the owner of a shop tries to give me a 10-22......I refuse to own one and he knows that, I think he knows that he is safe in offering it to me knowing that I will always turn my head up at it and walk away. I don't know if it is the rifle that bugs me or the people who need to own one and then rebuild it every time some new screw it on gadget hits the market, why couldn't ruger just make a quality gun in the first place rather then a piece of junk that won't shoot out of the box and require another thousand bucks worth of upgrades to be a rifle????

If you want one that bad Bill, hold out and pay the new price for one that is 15 years old, the new ones aren't worth much more then 64.oo on the shelf at the store add in the mark-up to keep the lights on..........
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i was given my 10/22 for Christmas back in 1984 from my parents.
ive put over 100k ammo through that gun in the following years growing up on a farm and shooting every day after school and the only thing that gun had added on to it was a sling and a crappy little scope that came on and off depending on my mood that day.

so when some blowhard comes in yelling that 10/22's are crap and not worth the price of the cardboard box they come in tells me a couple things right off the bat;
1. you have no idea what your talking about - which means that everything you say after that point is suspect.
2. your looking for some attention
 
yodave said:
every year the owner of a shop tries to give me a 10-22......I refuse to own one and he knows that, I think he knows that he is safe in offering it to me knowing that I will always turn my head up at it and walk away. I don't know if it is the rifle that bugs me or the people who need to own one and then rebuild it every time some new screw it on gadget hits the market, why couldn't ruger just make a quality gun in the first place rather then a piece of junk that won't shoot out of the box and require another thousand bucks worth of upgrades to be a rifle????

If you want one that bad Bill, hold out and pay the new price for one that is 15 years old, the new ones aren't worth much more then 64.oo on the shelf at the store add in the mark-up to keep the lights on..........
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Truth.

As for me, the guns I like to own tend to be older models anyway, and sometimes approaching 80 years of age since the last time one actually saw the inside of a factory. They are also the kind of firearm that would shrug off a century of use with only a subtle patina taking over where the blueing wore out- A Cooey model 60 will work just as well today as it did in 1939. I have no issues at all buying them off the EE, and sometimes in rough shape because I know they will clean up nicely and work no matter what.

Newer models though, I'd research first unless they were a model I know to be particularly trustworthy. 10/22s though, I would need to be paid to have one in my house, and even then I would have it in next to my Mosins, which will tease it and kick the crap out of it everytime I close the door.
 
yodave said:
I don't know if it is the rifle that bugs me or the people who need to own one and then rebuild it every time some new screw it on gadget hits the market, why couldn't ruger just make a quality gun in the first place rather then a piece of junk that won't shoot out of the box and require another thousand bucks worth of upgrades to be a rifle????
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Because people don't necessarily all want to own a "quality" gun that's just like everyone else's. Like the Honda Civic, primarily it's a cheap starting platform to build your own expression of how you think it should look and function. Don't want to build your own? Your choice, that's fine. If you want one that "shoots out of the box", the Magnum Research is an excellent clone.
However, if you want to tinker with a project, pick and choose every piece, and build exactly what you want, then the massive aftermarket of the 10/22 will allow a person to do just that.
 
I would have to say that it would be hard to argue that it is by far the most popular 22 semi auto to date. If it was that bad then it would not have such a great reputation. I seldom buy anything without modifying it to my liking. I purchase brand new things and immediately modify it because stock just plain sucks.
 
b72471 said:
I see the sponsors are selling the 10/22 RUGER TD model for about $60.00 less than what's being asked on EE for USED. Wondering if the used ones sell. Then again as told by the (USED CAR SALESMAN) they are one of a kind, driven by a little old lady, low mileage, 30 day warranty etc,etc.
Enjoy.
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Hey, it is a .22 lr... buy it new and it will last a lifetime. Anyway, most of the used gun on EE are not shot a lot, you can still buy with confidence if the price is lower.
 
One Lung Wonder said:
I got burned on the EE recently on one of those Uberti repro lever guns. The former owner did some 'gunsmithing' that he neglected to mention in his ad...and it will take some new parts and some gunsmithing to properly fix. I don't care, the gun is still handsome to look at and one day when time permits I suppose I will take it down and get the work done to get it shooting again...but a younger fella who has a limited gun budget would have been choked and rightfully so.

I am conflicted about the EE; I use it and sell on it but I make damned sure that my descriptions are as good as I can make them. If they have issues I say so; and I have never had complaints from any buyers. When we talk terms over the PM I always tell my buyers that if there are any issues I will make them right. I have even thrown in brass and dies with guns in calibres I will never shoot again...but a lot of those pikers on the EE aren't like that. Some are so mercenary that you can get a 'vibe' off them right over the internet. If you have problems with folk like that you are on your own. It basically says that in the EE 'Stickies'.

If you can buy new. Support our suppliers. When you sell, use the EE and support CGN - but more importantly, support your buyer especially if they are younger shooters just getting into the sport.
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Thank you for that part. Wish there were more people like you looking to cut us broke youngsters a break! :D
 
I know 10-22s are popular... That being said, I had one, and no matter what I did to it, it would never cycle properly... Didn't matter the ammo, the parts swapped, etc. It would always short cycle, and not eject the case more than half the time... I've developed a dislike for them since...
 
I've had about a dozen 10/22's over the years, starting with my first one purchased new in the very early 70's and progressing through to the couple of much more recent vintage that I own now. There seems to have been a steady and noticeably decline over those years in wood quality, metal finish, overall build quality and accuracy. The only thing that has gone up is the price.

They were much more fun back when they merely allowed easy modification and improvement. Now that they actually require it they have lost a lot of their charm.
 
Most of the rifles I use and love are unavailable new...The ones that are available have (generally) decreased in quality. I use EE regularly to buy and sell, and am very happy with that option.If I see a firearm overpriced, I pass it by...no problem. Respectfully Jim
 
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