New Production Auto Ordnance M1: thoughts?

Steel casing not brass.

At $10 cheaper a box than the nearest competing ammo, this is still great stuff for bush shooting where brass retrieval is unlikely in any event.

For controlled range shooting, I use brass cases, but just ordered 250rds of steel for woods use.

I'm sure its fine.
 
I find brass retrieval very frustrating with this handy little rifle. The casings are very easy to loose in the vegetation due to their small size. May have to try some of the steel cased goodness. :)
 
I love mine factory mags are not the best. I took one apart to find that the spring size is about half that of a USGI mag. I stretched one to try and help the feeding probs, and it did a bit. USGI mags and it functions perfect.
 
"...crime in Montreal..." Supposedly bikers.
"...we are about to see a bunch more..." Not here. And if you're thinking the Korean carbines, not Stateside, either. King Obama put the kibosh on that.
"...but a definite nuisance as to Port Pressure..." Nonsense. Carbide dies, IMR4227(14.5 for mine. Near max load. Makes a very satisfying BARK sound) and 110 grain bullets.
"...30 Carbine round should suffice..." Only with HP's or SP's and at under 100 yards for deer. Won't matter for Wiley, unless you want the hides. Hand loads are more accurate than any factory ammo.
 
Been browsing SFRC for the past couple days, trying to find an interesting, economical semi for hunting, and I came across the Auto Ordnance New Production M1.

How are these holding up? My main intent is hunting, so it'd have to be reliable & hold up to hunting abuse.
I'll be hunting does and 'yotes from 75 yards or less, so the 30 Carbine round should suffice.

Disucssing the round: I assume the 30 Carbine round isn't very common? If memory serves correct, I don't remember seeing at my local sporting goods store.

I have looked at a few of the Auto Ordnance carbines. Overall the metal work appears ok. I don't know if there are any interchangeability issues with the parts in regards to GI carbines or not. The one area that is not impressive at all is the stock and handgaurd. The Stock design is quite different from a GI unit, the main culprit being the size of the pistol grip area and it's radius (it's quite large compared to an original GI stock). Next issue is with the cutout for the receiver. It was machined quite a bit oversize along the sides of the receiver rails, so much so that you can see daylight through the cracks. Some also have the recoil plate fitted improperly and give either too little or too much barrel pressure when the front band is installed.

Lastly, and this one can be fixed easily, is that the handguard is too long. That is what is causing the barrel band to be cocked forward and not fit properly. Reducing the overall length of the handguard from the front, then re-cutting the lip portion that is retained by the barrel band to move it further back is all that is required to get the band to fit properly.

How they left the factory installed in that manner needs to be resolved. Things like this should be caught by the QC people, especially for what they cost.

As for the .30 Carbine round... Sierra makes a good softpoint, and very good HP bullet in 110gr. The hollow point, Sierra part #2110 has about the best BC of any 110gr bullet, and consequently shoots flatter than the normal round nose because of it. You have to be carefull with the overall length when loading this bullet as it is longer than the 110gr roundnose slugs normally used. Use an overall length that just fits inside the mag and still functions. IMR 4227, H110, Win 296, Hercules 2400, and Blue Dot are just some of the powder choices avialable.

.30 carbine ammo is available commercially, although not that popular anymore due to the influx of rifles that chamber 7.62x39 available in a price range equal to or cheaper than the Auto Ordnance Carbine.
 
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The ones brought into Canada have a 19 inch barrel .5 more then needed...


They're very nice looking in person and I'm very tempted to buy one. Mixed reviews with the magazines the 30 carbine isn't a cheap round to shoot but it's easy to reload and is fun to shoot so...

Id Buy it over the JR carbine in 9mm or 40 which is around the same price... It's between those 2 firearms I pick the M1 Carbine the big downside is if you don't reload and want to target shoot with it then it gets pricy..

I can find 30 carbine ammo at my local Canadain tire I can't find pistol ammo or 357 mag ammo though... It's a pistol they say....
 
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Well, at $18 a box fo 50 for the cheap Russian fodder, it's 9mm cheap. I don't bother reloading 9mm and if ammo stays this cheap, I won't reload for .30 carbine either unless I need hunting loads.
 
I got one used recently on an EE deal, put about 50 rounds through it so far, pretty happy with it, need some more rounds through it first though before I make any judgements.
 
The Carbine is one of those guns you have to use to 'get' - they're amazingly handy, very nimble handling and have enough power to keep you alive. Restricting them was an absolute travesty, that said, I'm not rebarreling the one I have now, it's a Howa. If more GI 'mixmasters' make it to the market, I'll have one done up with an 18.5 inch Criterion barrel, it'll make a great 'one size fits none' gun. I might even have to consider putting a paratrooper stock on one.
 
Well, at $18 a box fo 50 for the cheap Russian fodder, it's 9mm cheap. I don't bother reloading 9mm and if ammo stays this cheap, I won't reload for .30 carbine either unless I need hunting loads.

Couldn't find it and it was $43 per box for 50 I went ouch... but that's the ammo they had for 20 it was 25 so depends on the ammo and what you want to use in it. I found the expensive stuff someone must of bought all the cheap stuff...
 
Indeed. Please do. Very, VERY interested in what the Bolshevik ammo is like. I buy brass cased stuff when I can for rerollin' but some no fuss no muss would be swell.
I'm on my third M1, the previous two being restricted and to be honest, weren't much use to me because of it. I now have a 18.5" specimen and it's my fav semi now.
For the OP, as far as the Auto Ordnance, couldn't tell you; but the M1 Carbine in general, great little carbine.
 
And if you don;t care about collectibility, I would recommend M2 furniture. It's a lot more durable. Similarly, the type2 and type 3 bands are sturdier than the type 1 on the AO carbines.
 
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