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Tangopop

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I'm in the market for a new trap shotgun. My current gun is a 686 Beretta Silver Pigeon I Sporting. I'm fairly new to shooting but am having fun with shooting trap and would like to upgrade my gun. I've been looking for a new gun for some time but I've got a problem with buying a gun without holding it (at least) and shooting it for a round or more. I've found Kolar, Krieghoff, Perazzi, and high end Berettas on line but I just can't bring myself to buy them without holding them, shouldering them, feel how they feel in my hands, check the satisfying click of the action as you close it, and see what the sight picture looks like when I set the gun. I live in the interior of BC and don't have access to the big shoots to demo guns and the local gun shops don't carry the product that I'm looking for. All of the gun forums say to demo all of the guns that you're interested in and then make a decison but that means I have to drive more than 3000km (one way) to get to the big shoots in the US just to demo a gun. There just isn't the opportunity to test drive a gun where I live.

I've checked gun shops in Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver but they don't have a selection of high end guns to look at and/or demo. I've found many gun dealers in the US that have a huge selection of trap specific guns but of course living in Canada that does me no good.

So my questions are:

How do trap shooters in Canada buy a relatively high end and expensive gun when the product selection just isn't available to most communities?

I've been told to shoot other people's guns at the club I belong to but those shooters all have their individual set up (release triggers, 80/20 POI, etc). Trying someone's gun gives me an idea of what the gun might be but I'd be hard pressed to buy a gun based on shootings someone's Kolar (for example) that isn't set up for the way I like to shoot.

Forums say that you can't go wrong with buying any of the high end shotguns but I really have a problem with spending 5 figures for a shotgun that I hope I like. So what do trap shooters in Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon and other smaller communities do when they want to buy a high end gun? Buy on faith and hope it works?

One of the things that holds me back from buy a high end gun is finding a gunsmith to fix the gun if something breaks. Krieghoff, Perazzi, Kolar might all be wonderful guns but what does a guy do if the gun breaks? Where I live, gunsmiths that could service a P, K or K gun are few and far between.

So there you have it. I'd like to buy a new gun, not because I thing I'll hit an extra clay or 2 per hundred but because I thing the experience of shooting a superior gun is worth the dollars spent. But having said that, without demoing all of the guns you're interested in, how do you decide?

Is the answer to drive 3000Km (one way) and demo all of the guns?
 
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If Perazzi is one of your options, contact Perazzi Canada and talk to them. Do not buy a shotgun without shooting it or a similar model.
 
There are a few company reps who shoot at the Vancouver Gun Club in Richmond .
They dont just shoot the big money shoots either.
Call Will at Reliable and ask him for the names of who is who and see if a trip to the coast is worth the effort.
Vancouver is return is less than 3k.
Rob
 
There are a few company reps who shoot at the Vancouver Gun Club in Richmond .
They dont just shoot the big money shoots either.
Call Will at Reliable and ask him for the names of who is who and see if a trip to the coast is worth the effort.
Vancouver is return is less than 3k.
Rob



From Kelowna... I should hope it's less than 3k! :)


It's a real crap shoot if you can't try the different guns before you buy. So many new guns have adjustable combs and weight systems that it take some of the risk out of it but you still don't know if the gun will shoot high or low or in between.
 
There are a few company reps who shoot at the Vancouver Gun Club in Richmond .
They dont just shoot the big money shoots either.
Call Will at Reliable and ask him for the names of who is who and see if a trip to the coast is worth the effort.
Vancouver is return is less than 3k.
Rob

Rob

Thanks for the suggestion Rob. I've talked to Will once and felt he was very knowledgeable about the shotgun sports. I'll try to contact him tomorrow and perhaps meet up with him in Kamloops at the BC Provincial Sporting Clays Championships this weekend.
 
And if you can't try what you are looking for in Vancouver, my guess is someone in Seattle would have it. I know these places (Vancouver and Seattle) aren't like driving to Vernon, but they are doable without an overnight.

Probably worth it to get to live in the Okanagan.;)
 
Not much is going to come to you.

My advice to you is wait, take in a large shoot in the USA and get exactly what you want no middle man right from the manufacture the grand is likely the only place where they all would be there.

BTW you are in Ljutic country and it's not that far from you. One 35mm camera film container of parts and its is rebuilt.
 
Few guys at our club just bought Kreighoffs they are beautiful guns but I personally right now can't spend 15k+ on a gun.

There is guys at our club with perazzis and just about every high end beretta. they'd all let you shoot but you just have to run into them out there. and we are in sask

If I could currently afford it I'd but a kreighoff.
 
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. A trip to Calgary and Edmonton is in my immediate future and I'll shop at the various gun stores in both cities. I'm also going to visit the trap club in DeWinton and probably join since I'm in Calgary often enough to make it worthwhile. I'll also go out to the Edmonton trap club. In addition to DeWinton and the Calgary Shooting Center, any suggestions on shops in Edmonton, Calgary or even Red Deer?

If a gun doesn't turn up, a trip to Vancouver would be my next move. Thanks for suggesting that, canvasback and FLHTCUI.

As a last resort I'll look at going to a big shoot in the US.

I just heard about Ljutic a couple of weeks ago. No one that I know shoots one. Does anyone here care to give a mini review of the Ljutic? I'll look on youtube as well
 
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