New regulation regarding feral pigs in Ontario
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maple_leaf_eh
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The original post asked a serious question, and every five-watt genius has to post something which stampedes the conversation off topic. Running down landowners, Natural Resources, biologists, local, provincial, federal politicians and institutions, and all the while shouting that open season hunting is the only solution. Kill 'em all! Right now! I want my guns! ..... and then we as firearms owners wonder why our inputs are neither sought or welcomed in the conversation. Sheesh!
The statements from Natural Resources are clear. Yes, small populations of feral hogs have been spotted. Report them immediately. The biologists will train the herd to habituate to traps, and when all the little piggies are in one place, trap and euthanize them away from the cameras. In 2022 in modern-times Ontario that is the solution to solve the pig problem and uninvolve the low-information environmentally-active urban politicized troublemaker reading his/her/their Toronto Sun over coffee. As much fun as individual hunts or managed hunts might be for some, they bring infinitely more political problems than letting the province handle the feral hogs. Yes folks. Hunting is political not practical.
The statements from Natural Resources are clear. Yes, small populations of feral hogs have been spotted. Report them immediately. The biologists will train the herd to habituate to traps, and when all the little piggies are in one place, trap and euthanize them away from the cameras. In 2022 in modern-times Ontario that is the solution to solve the pig problem and uninvolve the low-information environmentally-active urban politicized troublemaker reading his/her/their Toronto Sun over coffee. As much fun as individual hunts or managed hunts might be for some, they bring infinitely more political problems than letting the province handle the feral hogs. Yes folks. Hunting is political not practical.
And it looks like that approach worked so well...the wild pig population simply exploded.
And waste all that pork?
The non edible parts
If they are being destructive to your property and the guberment does not want you to hunt/shoot them, YES
From Manitoba's 2021 hunting guide:
Wild Boar
Wild boar is not considered a big game animal. Manitoba has
been declared a wild boar control area, which means only a
resident of Manitoba may take wild boar any time of the year.
A hunting licence is not required to hunt wild boar, but the
hunter must comply with other general hunting regulations,
including the use of hunter orange during a big game season
where normally required. If hunting on private land, permission
of the land owner is required. There is no bag limit, possession
limit or tagging requirements for wild boar
Hunters are required to report the taking of a wild boar within
seven days to the Conservation Officer Service District Office
nearest the location where the wild boar was taken. It is
important to provide particulars including the location where
the animal was killed, the number of other wild boars observed,
etc.
For more information regarding wild boar at large, please
contact the Conservation Officer Service District Office nearest
the location you wish to hunt or visit our website at:
www.manitoba.ca/human-wildlife and click on “Agricultural
Interactions”.
Now they also say that hunting of groups of more than 2 is discouraged, for the reasons stated above, disbursal.
Wild Boar
Wild boar is not considered a big game animal. Manitoba has
been declared a wild boar control area, which means only a
resident of Manitoba may take wild boar any time of the year.
A hunting licence is not required to hunt wild boar, but the
hunter must comply with other general hunting regulations,
including the use of hunter orange during a big game season
where normally required. If hunting on private land, permission
of the land owner is required. There is no bag limit, possession
limit or tagging requirements for wild boar
Hunters are required to report the taking of a wild boar within
seven days to the Conservation Officer Service District Office
nearest the location where the wild boar was taken. It is
important to provide particulars including the location where
the animal was killed, the number of other wild boars observed,
etc.
For more information regarding wild boar at large, please
contact the Conservation Officer Service District Office nearest
the location you wish to hunt or visit our website at:
www.manitoba.ca/human-wildlife and click on “Agricultural
Interactions”.
Now they also say that hunting of groups of more than 2 is discouraged, for the reasons stated above, disbursal.
In Ontario if they are being destructive to your property you can shoot them under the protection of property provisions in the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act.
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/97f41#BK35
Should I have to do this I'll report having done it to let them know there is probably a sounder in the area and they can take it from there.
canadian hunter312
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Landowners are still permitted to shoot them to protect property.
Traps can catch 10, 20, 30+ pigs in a group in one shot where as a hunter is going to bag one or two and educate the rest of the critters to avoid humans/scent. This in turn makes trapping and hunting much more difficult for obvious reasons. By educating them you can turn a short process of eliminating the entire group into a seemingly endless battle.
Anyone who has hunted or trapped on pressured public land vs unhunted private land has seen just how much more difficult educated animals are to control.
Then there' the fact that allowing everyone to shoot them can easily result in people spreading pigs and charging people for land access or guiding.
Weird how biologists know more about animal behavior than our local experts.
Traps can catch 10, 20, 30+ pigs in a group in one shot where as a hunter is going to bag one or two and educate the rest of the critters to avoid humans/scent. This in turn makes trapping and hunting much more difficult for obvious reasons. By educating them you can turn a short process of eliminating the entire group into a seemingly endless battle.
Anyone who has hunted or trapped on pressured public land vs unhunted private land has seen just how much more difficult educated animals are to control.
Then there' the fact that allowing everyone to shoot them can easily result in people spreading pigs and charging people for land access or guiding.
Weird how biologists know more about animal behavior than our local experts.
You mean those same biologists who were in charge of wild pig infestation down in US in early 70's? Those same experts who were calling on hunting communities to restrain from engaging feral pigs? Sorry to brake to you but that concept was a massive failure, US and Europe are prime example of that. Let's do the same thing ...tell people how animals will avoid human scent and they'll turn so smart they will be able to obtain a university degree in escapeology.
maple_leaf_eh
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I agree. The Ontario biologists are trapping, catching and managing many wildlife populations already without anyone batting an eye. Think about the raccoon rabies inoculation programs. Think about elk reintroductions in Ontario. Thank you for all the wild turkeys! Think about fish farms and stocking. But, tell someone not to shoot a feral hog, and everyone gets righteous and noisy. Of course anti-government opinions abound and examples of failed programs will be waved like rallying banners against the biologists. But ... let's remember, those paid government employees are the ones making harvest decisions on behalf of every hunter. Slagging them for an aggressive response to a very damaging invasive species doesn't show a thorough understanding of the role of the biologists.
https://oodmag.com/why-wild-pigs-should-not-be-hunted-in-ontario/
https://www.ontario.ca/page/invasive-wild-pigs-ontario
I was hunting wild boars in Europe for more than 10 years. The situation right now is completely out of control. In early years, "experts" tried controlling the numbers with contraception, poisoning, trapping & selective culling. That didn't work. When they basically capitulated with options, they allowed general public to hunt these monsters (that's what they are). Btw, Germany considers wild pigs problem more complex and larger than rat infestation.
maple_leaf_eh
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Apparently there are invasive capybaras living in the canal banks too.
Problem any older boars are hard eating. The smell when cooking them will make any house wife throw it out the door. I do this for a living and boars just barely pay their freight to market and if we ship a ridgeling they actually charge you for sending it to market. In Texas my friends can shoot dozens and take a couple better ones for a meal and the rest lay there for the buzzards and coyotes.
Professional courtesy from the politicians and bureaucrats?
maple_leaf_eh
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Good to know. So what cuts do the old boars get cut up for? Anything we should avoid?
