New Rem 700 SPS

It is kind of like saying hey guys , I am here , I am willing to participate, hey guys, I also look forward to hearing your opinion on MY rig.Hey guys , lets talk guns.

CGN is a forum, not a search engine.

Anyways............

I too have had good luck with EGW , they have the export permit so can ship from U.S. right to your mail box.Good product.Weaver is slightly lower priced , still works well.Can go with NEAR also but a few more rubles, Warne is another.

The stock , the sky is the limit, are you looking for light weight, comfort , appearance , accuracy, all around etc????

If you like wood Boyd's is always a choice however our dollar right now makes things a bit pricey.

Like others have stated , the EE is a good place to look and gather info and figure out what one should be paying.

The 700 probably has the most accessories and aftermarket parts available of any rifle, you will find easily what you want.




Shibby! said:
No, its not, but it's a well known etiquette on internet forums. Search before asking. A quick google would net weeks of reading if so desired in about .017 of a second, rather then waiting a day to get an answer. So actually it's helpful information. Google! Or use the little top right search feature of EVERY internet forum.

TPS, Nightforce, ATRS, and the ones already listed, etc. All make good rails. Don't go cheap. Steel or aluminum up to you. Doubting mounts or problems shooting is the last thing you want to do. Weight on a precision only rifle is not necessarily a bad thing. Be aware some competitions have weight classes.

Keep an eye on EE. Some come up for sale with 50-75$ worth of savings.

Most stocks should still be bedded for cheap improvements.

If you were in Calgary I'd let you borrow a B&C medalist stock with adjustable LOP and lead added to butstock. I also have a ATRS and TPS rail kicking around. One aluminum, one steel. Sadly shipping on these items would be rediculous.
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J_Scott said:
don't mean to high-jack. But is the SPS a good precision rifle? I bought one because they were cheap for hunting and threw a bushnell elite 3-9x40 on it. I'd LOVE to make it into a precision rifle since I rarely hunt with it, but thought it wouldn't be a good platform to start on.
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It is an excellent way to start. With match grade factory ammo or reloading, you should be under 1 MOA fairly easily. And once you are bored of the caliber/shot out the barrel, you can spin on a custom barrel. Add in the tonnes of aftermarket parts and goodies for the 700, why wouldn't you start with one?
And if you decide that precision rifle just isn't you thing after all, you are not out too much money.
 
Sounds great. I guess a stock and glass are the big ones.

I always wanted a 700 5R MilSpec, so I'd like to build as close to that, without the barrel of course.
 
J_Scott said:
don't mean to high-jack. But is the SPS a good precision rifle? I bought one because they were cheap for hunting and threw a bushnell elite 3-9x40 on it. I'd LOVE to make it into a precision rifle since I rarely hunt with it, but thought it wouldn't be a good platform to start on.
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Some shoot decent, some ok. Not too often to get a really bad one.

Precision? This forum stretches the word precision pretty far. Will they teach you the basics? Yup. Will they also cause frustration because sometimes issues are gun related? Yup.

I owned a 20" SPS at one time. I have a 5R so I'm in the same boat. The new Jury tube waiting to be spun on should help significantly though. The 5R's stainless action is much nicer feeling then the SPS. That's one of the main reason I just didn't thread on a new barrel to the SPS.

What I enjoy to shoot most, medium to long range, the difference between .5 and .75 or even 1MOA doesn't really matter. Wind calls and proper ballistics far outweigh a .5 deviation.
 
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I've read a lot of good things about the 700 SPS and wanted one for a long time. If it's good enough to be used in police and military it must be good enough for whatever I will be doing with it, which is hunting and shooting up to 1000m.
So does the community recommend the Vortex Viper PST?
 
Save a bit more $$ and get the sightron. The extra magnification will help you if you're shooting 1000m. The sps might be good to go, or might need some work. QC at Remington is sometimes questionable. You might want to budget an extra 300-1200 depending how small you want your groups to be. I shoot custom savages. I like em a lot, but if I was going to buy an out of the box shooter, it would likely be a tikka, savage second, Remington third. I also think the howa 1500 has a lot of potential, but I have no experience to back that statement up.
 
rl4930 said:
Save a bit more $$ and get the sightron. The extra magnification will help you if you're shooting 1000m. The sps might be good to go, or might need some work. QC at Remington is sometimes questionable. You might want to budget an extra 300-1200 depending how small you want your groups to be. I shoot custom savages. I like em a lot, but if I was going to buy an out of the box shooter, it would likely be a tikka, savage second, Remington third. I also think the howa 1500 has a lot of potential, but I have no experience to back that statement up.
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Sounds good. So which model?
 
Scope? Well the s3 8-32 has a lot of adjustment and the 10-50 has extra magnification, so it's a bit of a toss up. If you're asking about guns, be more specific.
 
rl4930 said:
Scope? Well the s3 8-32 has a lot of adjustment and the 10-50 has extra magnification, so it's a bit of a toss up. If you're asking about guns, be more specific.
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No I meant the scope. I have the 700 AAC .308 with a 20 moa rail so I need a scope now. I am not sure how often I will shoot at 1000m but I'll be using it for hunting too so I don't want a large minimum magnification. I think 24 maximum would be good enough. Also the Sightron is SFP and I was looking for an FFP scope for my needs. Unless the glass in the sightron, leupold, or any other higher end scope is unbelievably better than the viper pst and will make a huge difference for me I don't really see the need for better.

But then again I might be missing something really big about scopes I just don't know. That's why I started the thread to see what knowledgeable people tell me and I appreciate your help.

I like the FFP, illuminated reticle, and lower price of the viper so that's why I keep comparing to it. I also don't want particularly huge and heavy scope on my gun.
 
StrelokRussia said:
I finally got myself a Remington 700 SPS AAC in .308 and I'm excited to make it into a good precision/hunting rifle. So I wanted to get the community's opinion on best rail and fully bedded stock to replace the original one.

Not worried about the scope right now.
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Put it in a accuracy international chassis and you don't have to glass bed it . Mine shoots sub half inch moa at around 3/8" average at 100 yards sometime better
 
StrelokRussia said:
No I meant the scope. I have the 700 AAC .308 with a 20 moa rail so I need a scope now. I am not sure how often I will shoot at 1000m but I'll be using it for hunting too so I don't want a large minimum magnification. I think 24 maximum would be good enough. Also the Sightron is SFP and I was looking for an FFP scope for my needs. Unless the glass in the sightron, leupold, or any other higher end scope is unbelievably better than the viper pst and will make a huge difference for me I don't really see the need for better.

But then again I might be missing something really big about scopes I just don't know. That's why I started the thread to see what knowledgeable people tell me and I appreciate your help.

I like the FFP, illuminated reticle, and lower price of the viper so that's why I keep comparing to it. I also don't want particularly huge and heavy scope on my gun.
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If you're hunting as well I think you have the right idea to go 6-24. Especially here in BC. You ever shoot up at PWA?
 
StrelokRussia said:
Thanks everyone. Would a Vortex PST do the job up to 1000m? If so is it better to get an MRAD or MOA?
Maybe something cheaper will do the job?
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Go with Mil reticle and Mil turrets.

Either system is as easy as the other though if you realize the reticle is a ruler.

Mil/Mil is all the rage so you'll have more options.
 
I prefer SFP myself. I also think the glass on the sightron is a lot better than the viper and Leupold. If you're using your scope for hunting at distance, get a good laser range finder. If you're good enough to range animals at distance with a scope, you wouldn't be asking these questions. I also like the sightrons fine 1/8th MoA turrets. Mils are a little course for shooting 1000 yards.
 
StrelokRussia said:
No I meant the scope. I have the 700 AAC .308 with a 20 moa rail so I need a scope now. I am not sure how often I will shoot at 1000m but I'll be using it for hunting too so I don't want a large minimum magnification. I think 24 maximum would be good enough. Also the Sightron is SFP and I was looking for an FFP scope for my needs. Unless the glass in the sightron, leupold, or any other higher end scope is unbelievably better than the viper pst and will make a huge difference for me I don't really see the need for better.

But then again I might be missing something really big about scopes I just don't know. That's why I started the thread to see what knowledgeable people tell me and I appreciate your help.

I like the FFP, illuminated reticle, and lower price of the viper so that's why I keep comparing to it. I also don't want particularly huge and heavy scope on my gun.
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When concidering what scope to buy, the most important factor is mechanics. Your scope has to be able to hold zero and return to zero after making adjustments.
All the top name scopes have decent glass. Vortex will give you pretty good clarity for you money, and as long as you buy a higher end model it should track well for you.
For hunting, the lower magnification is important. There are many quality scopes that offer ranges from 3-18x or so. The larger scopes are advantageous for long distance target shooting but the 5 or 6x is a little high for anything in close.
I prefer a second focal plane simply because I dont like a giant reticle at full magnification and I dont use it for ranging. A personal preference there. Try to choose a reticle that has only what you need and not too cluttered. A Horus reticle is good example of an absolute mess imho.
Stock is all about fit. You need the correct length of pull, cheek height and grip size depending on how big your hand is.
There are many on the market to choose from. I like the Mcmillan A5, you may like a chassis such as Cadex or MDT. If you have access to a good gun shop, its best to try a few and see how they feel.
Enjoy your shooting! Be sure and post a pic of your build.
 
And here is why you need to read and search LOTS before buying.

1) You don't need massive magnification for long range. It's actually quite the opposite. I've explained this before and won't be doing it again. Can be found by.... searching.
2) FFP are not all "MASSIVE" at their high end of zoom. This vary's scope to scope. My Razor Gen 2 has rather fine reticle at 27.5x, while my Razor Gen 1 has a slightly thicker at 20x. I've seen some massively thick ones too.
3) Mil/MOA is not something to accept over a random post on the internet. Do your homework and base it off your needs or wants. There is no rage over mil's. Many fall into this trap because the military has standardised it.
4) There is some good information here. As in, do your homework, considering a scope with good mechanics first and foremost, fit of stock is most important, ranging while hunting should be done with a good rangefinder ($$$), etc. Reticles are personal choice. What you may love and lust over might be the next person worst reticle. Sometimes shooting or trying different scopes are required to learn this.
5) Rare, if ever, will a stock SPS shoot 3/8" average groups. Ever. I'd love to be proved wrong with this. If that were the case there would be no gunsmiths around and nobody would shoot anything but SPS's. The world would be a fantastically simple place. As I one heard from hunters on a 300y line: "my groups are touching!". Walking out proved they were barely on paper. A LARGE sheet of paper...

I resort back to my first post saying to search a lot. You can't wad through the crap unless you are familiar with the requirements and your wants/needs first. Take everything with a grain of salt on the internet.

Good luck.
 
Thanks to everyone for your help. This is why I love coming here. Here I can get good advice, if I go to a store they will just try to sell me something I don't necessarily need.

I've set my eye on the B&C M40 stock and the Viper PST. Not looking for pinpoint precision but this will be a decently accurate rifle. Now how do I find that stock...........

Will post pics when I get it finished.
 
Places like Prophet River can get them in for you. (stock). The B&C is a good stock for the money.

Viper PST isn't bad, but as mentioned, the sightron should be closely evaluated. Sightron may have the edge on mechanics and glass. 24x is fine, 32 can be used sometimes. 50 IMO is a waste of time unless you are doing fine precision work at shorter ranges. Especially if you want the low end for hunting, in which case stick with the 6x low power at most.

Rangefinders arn't cheap but if you don't plan on ranging ultra far things, then costs can be saved. My buddies Lieca and my Swarovski range within 1y all the time, but his cuts out around 600-700y, where mine will range above 1000. Holding it is extremely difficult though and I have to use a tripod. His seems less effected by vibrations.
 
I've looked at Sightron but it's a bit too costly. I understand that if I add a bit more $ here and there I can get a nicer scope but $2000 is just out of my price range. And it doesn't have an illuminated reticle (though not super important). I haven't found a used one for sale yet.

Also been looking at the Bushnell ERS 6-24. I need a rugged scope because I'll be carrying it through the bush (very carefully).
 
I just picked up an sps in .223 and put it in a MTD LSS chasis, so far I very pleased. Anyone else find the
Sps picky with its brass preference?
 
StrelokRussia said:
Thanks everyone. Would a Vortex PST do the job up to 1000m? If so is it better to get an MRAD or MOA?
Maybe something cheaper will do the job?
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I personally have 2 Vortex scopes, the one you're asking about PST is very good scope for the money you spend but at 1000m, you are pushing that scope to its limits. For that kind of a shot you may also need to develop your own load for your rifle and doing it with standard 700 trigger is also pushing it. You will also need a lot of practice and getting to know your rifle and optics to understand how they both behave. As for reticle, it's a matter of personal preference, I have 2 tactical scopes, one in mil-dots(Bushnell Elite 6-24x50) and Vortex PST 6-24x50 in MOA. I really like the MOA for its simplicity and easy translation from ballistic chart. For me to work it all out in MOA's is much easier and faster than convert from Mil-Dots. It's one of those things that are difficult to read about it to make a personal decision but once you try it, you understand the differences.
 
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