New Rem VTR: What's the advantage of the 3 sided barrel?

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A fusion of our most advanced performance features in both tactical and varmint rifles, the new Model 700™ Varmint-Tactical Rifle (VTR™) is a revolutionary system optimized for extended-range precision and mobility. Its triangular barrel contour is a product of years of rigorous research and development focused on reducing weight, enhancing rigidity and promoting rapid heat dissipation.
To decrease recoil and muzzle jump, this uniquely contoured 22" barrel has an integral muzzle brake that’s machined-in during production. Along with the new barrel design, we brought together a host of other cutting-edge features on our super accurate Model 700 platform. The results are nothing short of astounding.

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A fusion of our most advanced performance features in both tactical and varmint rifles, the new Model 700™ Varmint-Tactical Rifle (VTR™) is a revolutionary system optimized for extended-range precision and mobility. Its triangular barrel contour is a product of years of rigorous research and development focused on reducing weight, enhancing rigidity and promoting rapid heat dissipation.To decrease recoil and muzzle jump, this uniquely contoured 22" barrel has an integral muzzle brake that’s machined-in during production. Along with the new barrel design, we brought together a host of other cutting-edge features on our super accurate Model 700 platform. The results are nothing short of astounding.
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Sounds like the new fluting........;)
 
BLING!!!!!!

A number of HG custom makers have been doing slab and polygonal machining for years. It does change the look of your rifle dramatically.

However, the improvements spouted in the ad is pure marketing.

A very real problem is inducing/increasing stress areas in the barrel. Rem barrels are still hammer forged. Many a smith will suggest AGAINST changing the contour for fear of releasing/inducing weird stress areas in the barrel which can lead to poor accuracy.

Some will not even flute them.

This machining might do exactly that. But then that is only speculation at this time.

One thing that can happen is off center machining. There are no shortage of factory pipes where the hole is not exactly in the center of the barrel. If the machining is indexed off the outside contour instead of the bore, you get thin and thick areas.

That cannot be good in the long run for accuracy. I just don't see the taking the time to bore align a mass produced pipe.

Will do nothing to make that pipe more rigid. Removing material never will.

That muzzle brake can also cause ALOT of problems if any burrs are left on the bore side of the pipe. Are they back boring? How much? What type of crown is left behind? Sure doesn't look like EDM cutting.

How do you fix chatter on a hidden crown?

It is one of the more novel approaches to entice shooters. It adds a very hollywood flare to an otherwise boring device. Will it actually work. Time will tell.

For now, I will stick to my very round Gaillards and live happily in my ignorance.

Jerry
 
We know that the muzzle brake will make it more resistant to pull out of the ground :)

Who knows. Maybe the Rem engineers have done their homework and it will shoot as well as their other pipes. Let's see what the reports suggest.

Jerry
 
I think that it's just a gimic - sales marketing pitch.

I don't see any value in that type of machining.

The crown was mentioned, as was the machined brake - Potential problems before the sale.
 
Clearly if your barrel isn't some geometric shape in section, the varmints will simply shrug off the bullet strikes, and your #### will fall off.
 
Looks cool but the barrel profile and muzzle brake are made as such to save production costs (rather than traditional fluting).
 
What? No flashlight, laser pointer, forward grip, or night vision mounting points???...:eek:

That's it! I'm not buying another Remmington until they bring out the next "tacticool", painfully obvious, marketing gimick!
 
I think it will do just as good as all there other rifles.


When I rode for Honda Canada we tested bikes 3 and 4 years ahead of there showroom dates......it takes more then an Idea to make it to production
 
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Sorry, I think it is FUGLY..............plus I don't like the idea of the brake venting upwards into the line of sight...................

Jerry made some very good points.................have to wait and see how it performs over time.............

SKBY.
 
We will see what gun rag gets bought out by Remington. As stated on previous thread: Hole is still round, Marketing is new. As for how it shoots some fish will just have to buy it & tell us. If its like the Remingtons I own the bedding will have to be done or 'redone' if the barrel is any good (doubt it, as mentioned by others) & the trigger pull will have to be lightened up. Then you'll be able to tell if its any good. What do ya figure another $100-$150 just to tune it up out of the box?
 
never said it look good just it will do allright,What would Jerry say if it was a Savage???LOL
 
Who cares what it looks like on th outside? Where it really counts, it is still just a factory barrel. Asymetrical venting on the brake??? I see that as a recipe for all sorts of problems with long range accuracy
 
Obtunded said:
Who cares what it looks like on th outside? Where it really counts, it is still just a factory barrel. Asymetrical venting on the brake??? I see that as a recipe for all sorts of problems with long range accuracy
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If no one cared what it looked like on the outside then what would be the point in them doing this? I seriously hope you don't think Remington was concerned with long range accuracy when they designed this, do you?
 
The industry is faced with the problem of convincing folks with perfectly good rifles that they need to buy more perfectly good rifles. Will one of these shoot better than other 700s? Will conventionally barrelled ones fade away? Who knows? At least they are not building them on the 710 action.
 
All they need to do is mill a picatinny rail into the bottom of that barrel and BLAM....instant Tacticool setup......then they can market their own line of tactical addons and make a friggin mint because of course (if their smart) they would use a proprietary spacing that would allow only their products to fit.
 
Jamie said:
never said it look good just it will do allright,What would Jerry say if it was a Savage???LOL
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Jamie, my tune wouldn't change but then 10mins, and I got a nice round Gaillard or pac nor or shilen back on.:runaway::runaway:

If everything is milled correctly AND no additional stress is created/released, there should be no ill effects. It shouldn't warp any worse then a generic round Rem/Savage barrel when it gets hot.

The problem is that I don't see enough care being put into a factory rifle even for several hundred$$ upcharge. Put those flats cockeyed relative to the bore and things should get pretty spicey. No different then milling flutes poorly.

That is pretty expensive milling time for three passes with a big ass bit.....

Jerry
 
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