New Remington 45-70 full power load

The XS Lever Scout Rail should be ideal for my GBL. The XS plain lever rail extends to the back of the receiver and I wouldn't use that section of it.

I could mount a longer eye relief scope to the rear of the Scout Rail which gets the scope eye piece way forward of the hammer.

Brownells lists one at US$63.90 (or ~CDN$80) which should be a fair price. Need to go find one.

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I order some stuff like Wild West Guns trigger kits directly from Brownells and get them.
I think the limit is $500 now.
If they're not allowed to ship it to Canada (ITAR) they won't.
It says for each article if it can be shipped outside the USA or not.
 
Slamfire said:
Not a +P load. An example would be HSM Bear Load ammo, 430gr at 1801 fps muzzle speed -

"Firearms capable of shooting our 45-70 +P ammunition:

Marlin 1895
Ruger #1
Browning 1885 High Wall"

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Darn tooten that's not only a plus P load, but much too high pressure to have on the north American commercial market!
The early Springfield 45-70 Trapdoor rifles were deemed to be able to handle a load of about 1440 fps, with 405 grain bullets, so that was the load shown for them, even if the early loads were black powder loadings. No commercial load can legally be more than this.
The US Army had the Springfield Trapdoor as their official rifle for two years around 1800.
About 25 years ago the wife and I spent most of a week scratching and digging on the old Fort Mojave US Fort on the Colorado River in Arizona. We found a lot of 45-70 empties where they were changing over to smokeless powder. We have samples of the three types of primers they were experimenting with, before they settled on the standard push in primer as we know it today.
The Army also shortened the case a bit, called it the 45-60 and made it into a carbine for their cavalry. This was the rifle that wiped out old General Yellow Hair,(forget his name) and his Tenth Cavalry at the Little Bighorn River, after the Indian bow and arrow shooters finished off the American shooters and obtained the Trapdoor carbines, to complete the event.
As a point of interest here, some years ago they swept the entire battle ground of the hill of the Little Bighorn with metal detectors. They marked the position of every metal fragment they found, anallysed them and had them replaced on the battle ground, exactly where they were. Anyone walking over the battle ground, as we once were, is told if they bend over and touch the ground, they will be searched. Thus, you know that when you are walking on the battle ground, you are being watched by people with a high quality binocular!
 
A favorite round with quite a colorful history. Thanks for sharing. Lyman advises loads for Trapdoor Springfield rifles in good condition shouldn't exceed 17,000 CUP. Speer loads are held to 28,000 CUP for the Marlin and 35,000 CUP for the Ruger No.1.

The Little Bighorn Battlefield National Monument is on the itinerary for our next trip to Yellowstone Park. We visited Yellowstone last month and went as far as Cody Wyoming. Incredibly scenic landscapes! The Little Bighorn Battlefield is only about 2 hours from Cody. Wished I had brought a motorcycle - awesome roads for that - as well as my fly rod to angle the Yellowstone River so will be bringing these along on the trip next Spring. :d

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.45-70 Springfield Model 1873

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Lamar Valley, Yellowstone National Park
 
H4831 said:
The laws of the land in Canada and USA, limit the maximum loads for 45-70 cartridges. With 105 grain bullets, velocity is supposed to be about 1450 fps. This is considered safe for the Springfield Trap door, in good condition.
I have some antique Winchester 45-70 cartridges with 405 grain bullet, some of the first ever made. I also have an 1884 Springfield Trapdoor and I recently fired one of the antique cartridges in it. The velocity was just about exactly what it was supposed to be, at about 1430 fps.
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Many dealers both canuckside and stateside selling factory Buffalo Bore 45-70 ammo pushing a 430 grain bullet @ 1950 fps for a ME around 3500 ft-lbs.
Garrett ammo - same thing.
HSM runs a tad cooler but not much.
Just sayin.
 
My guide is the factory ported version, believe 88-92ish. Bought it off here, looked new. Found out why, jammed first shot. Rusty Woods, did a action job, changed the trigger springs; so now it has a rifle trigger, not a shotgun.

Used some factory, shot 5" right at 50. Only option was drift the sight. So instead it got a rail and Nikon Monarch 3 1-4 c #4a reticle.

Then I moved from Powell River, land of 400lb black bears walking past Canadian Tire. Never really bothered with load development as a result.
 
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