New Remington 597, So far Not Impressed....

LOL I have a 597 that was a factory lemon. (dont get me started on what was wrong with it as its a long list)
but here is a few things to check out.

with a flashlight in the ejection port and an eye down the muzzle. Is there any pitting or dark areas? (Remington doesnt spray any oil into the bore at the factory and they will rust on the gun store shelf)

Is there a burr on the crown?( mine had a burr from 200 to 330 and from 500 to 630.)

Is there a dent in the breech?( a dry firing" posable customer" may have veiwed the gun at the store before you brought it home)

Is your barrel on streight? (my receiver had to be cleaned up where the locking wedge sits as there was flashing iside this area which caused the barrel to sitt of kilter in relation to the receiver.

Is your barrel rubbing against the side of your barrel? (mine was badly)

Also the bulk ammo you are using will have inconsistant velocities resulting in poor groopings. This will be more noticed with an unbroken in gun. And your tasco economy scope may not hold zero well. I know my tasco didnt. I switched to a marginally better busnell but my 597 is a 100yd plinker not a tack driver.
 
When I cleaned the gun today I took a good look down the bore and it all appeared to be good from what I could see. The muzzle was clean, no apparent sign of rust or visible defects. The receiver seems to be seated to the stock correctly, the barrel is not making contact with stock. Overall, everything "appears" to be correct. As has been stated before, the problem could be with the scope, ammo or a combination of both. Next time out I will be trying a couple different types of better quality ammo with and w/o the scope. If there is no improvement, this gun is going back.
 
i've had really good luck with the cci minimags and 2nd is federal bulk. i found dyna points were a fair bit quieter than most others but your accuracy suffered.the 333s and 555s were better but not great and the winchester hv (grey box) were all over too and had alot of duds. that would be the first thing i would check out. good luck
 
I have tried a lot of different brands through mine with varying results, but will consistently shoot the Winchester Dynapoint GT's well. I have also replaced the stock scope with a better one and it now shoots much better.
 
I think Ruger sneaks into the Remington factories and sabotages some of the 597s, to instill fear in the hearts of those who don't buy the 10/22.
Honestly though since I've never had a problem with Winchester bulk, you might have your gunsmith take a look.

Hay the new 10/22 my buddy got was crap out of the box my VTR shot circles around it they both make duds from time to time but Ruger owners will never admit this!
 
Nope already tried
No Parts
K I did some emailing for ya & as long as you stay under the $100 mark Brownells will ship you the parts that you need. Or you would have to talk to Wolfgang @ Wolverine to get you the missing parts in. Here is the list of parts that they are offering;
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=0/k=597/t=P/ksubmit=y/f_a=1/Products/All/search=597
 
Hay the new 10/22 my buddy got was crap out of the box my VTR shot circles around it they both make duds from time to time but Ruger owners will never admit this!

:eek:
Well I guess that's why both 597 and the 10/22 are that cheap. This would be unacceptable out of a Sako, but I guess we shouldn't expect 100% consistency with sub $500 rifles. Not to say that there shouldn't be consistency, but nothings perfect anymore :(
 
K I did some emailing for ya & as long as you stay under the $100 mark Brownells will ship you the parts that you need. Or you would have to talk to Wolfgang @ Wolverine to get you the missing parts in. Here is the list of parts that they are offering;
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=0/k=597/t=P/ksubmit=y/f_a=1/Products/All/search=597

Thanks I'll check it out
 
I have two 597's, a vtr and a regular grey crap one. Both shoot very well. There are random fte and ftf"s. Mine feed best with federal bulk or anything cci. Remington anything ammo seems to jame like crazy. Who would have thunk you cant put remington ammo in a remington. Both rifles are accurate out to 100 yrds. What do you expect for a cheap .22.
 
I have two 597's, a vtr and a regular grey crap one. Both shoot very well. There are random fte and ftf"s. Mine feed best with federal bulk or anything cci. Remington anything ammo seems to jame like crazy. Who would have thunk you cant put remington ammo in a remington. Both rifles are accurate out to 100 yrds. What do you expect for a cheap .22.

0 FTF on mine and I have not cleaned it for well over 1000 rds
 
0 FTF on mine and I have not cleaned it for well over 1000 rds

I will try with less lube, and run it really dry to see what happens. My vtr runs flawless on the right ammo, its the older one that has at least 10 000 rnds through her that has minor problems to feed and extract. All in all for the use and abuse I put on it and for the money I paid (like under$200) I guess I cant complain. you get what you pay for.
 
This morning I picked up a couple different boxes of ammo to see if I would get different results. I decided to try Federal Game Shok 40 grain Copperplated and Remington Thunderbolt 40 grain Lead Round Nose, as well as the currrent supply of Winchester Dynapoint GT 40 grain Copperplated.

The temperature was -14 (-18 w/windchill) and a west wind approx 20km/h (blowing from my left to right while at the bench.) I set up 2 targets side by side at the 50 yard mark and started with Winchester in 3 shot groups making scope adjustments as I went alon€g. As before, the rounds were all over the place. I then tried the Federal and the group tightened up significantly. Finally I loaded 3 Remingtons and got an even tighter group. I repeated the process and the results were similar with the Remington ammo seeming to perform the best. I did multiple 3 shot groups with each ammo, making scope adjustments as I went along until I found that they were all shooting somewhat consistant to each other.

I then removed the scope and tried with iron sights. My first 3 shots weren't even on paper, so I moved up to the 25 yard line and tried again with the same results. The manual said that the sights were factory set at 100 yards so I adjust the sight down and tried again. Aiming at the bottom of the target this time, my first shot hit the top of the target so I adjusted again. Finally getting my groups close to center I attempted to do 3 shot groups following the same pattern as before. However, due to the cold wind in my eyes I was having a hard time maintaing a sight picture and the results were mixed. I moved up to the 25 yard line again and shot 2 3-shot groups with the Federal and Remington ammo and found that the results were similar as to with the scope at the 50, only this time I was shooting from a kneeling position with the gun being supported by foreward elbow resting on my knee.

I returned to the bench and reattached scope, reset my eye relief to what it was before (I removed the scope and rings as one unit) and then set up a fresh target. I followed the same pattern as originally:

Center (first group): Winchester Dynapoint GT
Top left (second group): Federal Game Shok
Top right (third group): Remington Thunderbolt
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The bottom left (fourth group) is the Federal and the bottom right (fifth group) is the Remington. The gun was clean when I started, and by the time I shot this target, there had been about 110-120 rounds put down the barrel.

I am more convinced now that the issue is the ammo and possibly the scope. Next time out I am going to try a couple different brands of ammo and see what happens. Only difference this time is, I am going to leave the gun dirty and then clean during my testing process to see if that plays a big factor or not. I am not certain yet if the scope is playing a factor or not, but it will be getting changed out eventually.
 
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