I couldn't agree with you more, same goes for some scopes, and even guns (ACR). They aren't reflecting their fair value, only what value the market perceives them to be.
New Remington 700 Chassis.
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I couldn't agree with you more, same goes for some scopes, and even guns (ACR). They aren't reflecting their fair value, only what value the market perceives them to be.
I think the market dictates the value...it does not perceive it....probably the most basic rule of economics. That piece of hardware at $1200 would be a bargain (which is not to imply I have any clue what they are going to charge for it).
MSR knock off? Now that's funny...
I disagree...I think there is very little margin in specialty items like stocks and rails ect......And even if the margins were 200% its still not a huge money maker...just be happy that someone down the line likes to work for free to bring cool stuff to market...
Dies for extrusion, moulds for casting, neither of which I see being used on this, everything looks CNC'd to me. For $1200 you can get a Benelli shotgun. Don't get me wrong I love the MSR/AICS, I just don't see the value, and obviously that's no reflection on One Shot. Same goes for the Leupold CQBSS, $4000, seriously is it really twice the value of any other quality scope? I think it's simply what the 'tactical' market is willing to bear, nothing more, but that could be said of any particular product, at some stage you pass the point of diminishing returns.
I have no idea who built the MSR chassis for Remington, do you? If your refering to CADEX, just come out and say so. However, I wouldn't understand how Remington would allow this to take place assuming that the stock was made under contract exclusively for them.
I've never paid for aluminum extrusions before and I doubt you have either. How much do they cost exactly?
Seems like I've some how hit a nerve here. I meant no disrespect. Nor do I have any turf to protect here either. I'm not saying your intended price will be high.
I hope this isn't the case. That's an absolutely obscene amount of money.
You're quite the economist aren't you? Specialty items/markets by their very nature yield higher margins because they have to.
LMAO! You don't think a 200% mark-up is a huge money maker? Now I know for certain you're full of sheet.
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Always some suckers will pay for it.
Lets do some basic math. First I would like to say I do no have a degree in economics but I have been in business for myself since I was 24 so I have an Idea how business works....
Lets use the Tac21 as an example because we know what the retail and dealer costs are roughly...plus I bought one
To make the chassis lets say it costs $300-350 for all the material and machine shop labor and AI magazine.
Now it gets picked up by Laszlo and he takes it to be coated..maybe $20.00 each. Now its packaged up in his custom boxes with labels and printed instructions ect maybe another $20.00 each
Now Laszlo ships to retailers $10.00 per unit
So laszlo sells it to retailers for say $700.00??...whats Lassos' profit per unit??
Now the retailer has it in his inventory for an unknown period of time. The retailers money is tied up(maybe has terms) regardless, he has to sell it for $999.00.... The retailer has over head also.... lease, utilities, staff and so on.
I would guess a few hundred of these chassis sold at most based on what has been posted on CGN...I could be wrong, but not by much..
So the Tac21 is marked up by over a 100% from cost ...I don't see anyone getting rich on this deal....I stand by my statement that 200% margin is not allot of money for the low amount of units sold....
I'm not going to argue this point with you..If we have to agree to disagree thats fine...P.S you should learn to be nicer to people...I have seen some of your posts and you are very rude...
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LMAO! Welcome to the wonderful world of retail.
Darren, look at the bright side. At least people are talking about this stock and the word is getting out regarding it. 72 hours ago I'd never even heard of CADEX before and I doubt I'm not alone in saying so.
At whatever price point it will be, you will have people who will either want it or not depending on the preceived value to the consumer. You have to be realistic about how many of these stocks you're likely to sell. At the kind of prices being suggested here, your volume is obviously going to be very low. That's natural.
When are you able to release the price publically so that the speculation will end?
Up until this point all this arguing is based purely on speculation. All this whining and complaining is based on a lack of knowledge, why not let the guy advertise his product, sell it for a fair value and live and let live. If you can not afford, or are unwilling to part with the required amount of cash to purchase, that doesn't make Darren a bad guy. He has a solid reputation on this board for honesty and excellent customer service, I am sure he will not rip anyone off.
