New Rifle for Africa

Fry said:
Sounds like it comes from experience and makes sense... but I'm wondering, how did our ancestors fare when hunting there? I don't think they had all the fancy schmancy glass bedding, composite material stocks and uber magnums and got decent results in their hunts.
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They simply had better craftsmanship and better wood for rifle stocks in those days. The fit of the barrel and receiver to the stock was better and the stock was stronger. This problem of stocks failing on powerful rifles seems to be a post second world war phenomenon. Modern stocks for production rifles are not fitted as carefully, the wood for off the rack guns is not a good quality, and the powerful cartridges developed over the last 50 years produce sharper, faster recoil than their predecessors.
 
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sheephunter said:
Yup, not a lot of options but you could throw an X-Bolt into the mix as well.
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Or you could jam a crowbar in your wallet and buy a Dakota.

sheephunter said:
Loading involves going to the gun counter and asking for your calibre! :D
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The choice to use factory ammo for Africa can prevent some potential problems with the folks who clear your entry into the country. They like to see factory ammo boxes and they like the head stamp of the cartridge to match the caliber stamp on the rifle barrel. Every country is different, but should there is a problem with one of these pesky details, the problem can often be resolved to everyones satisfaction with a payment of dollars USD. (No one will say thank-you for Canadian currency.) In such a case the use of factory ammo can save you some money.
 
I have trouble believing that the wood was better. My Sakos have lovely wood. I would take two rifles but really how often would a Sako fail? In Sask it is often below 40 below and hot in the summer and Ive been in the glades in July and Ive never seen a gun fail yet. Even old .303s and pump junk remingtons. In fact Ive had lil experience with decent guns
Boomer said:
They simply had better craftsmanship and better wood for rifle stocks in those days. The fit of the barrel and receiver to the stock was better and the stock was stronger. This problem of stocks failing on powerful rifles seems to be a post second world war phenomenon. Modern stocks for production rifles are not fitted as carefully, the wood for off the rack guns is not a good quality, and the powerful cartridges developed over the last 50 years produce sharper, faster recoil than their predecessors.
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What would the best quality factory ammo be? Are accubonds sold in prerolled?
Boomer said:
Or you could jam a crowbar in your wallet and buy a Dakota.



The choice to use factory ammo for Africa can prevent some potential problems with the folks who clear your entry into the country. They like to see factory ammo boxes and they like the head stamp of the cartridge to match the caliber stamp on the rifle barrel. Every country is different, but should there is a problem with one of these pesky details, the problem can often be resolved to everyones satisfaction with a payment of dollars USD. (No one will say thank-you for Canadian currency.) In such a case the use of factory ammo can save you some money.
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mackillan said:
I have trouble believing that the wood was better. My Sakos have lovely wood. I would take two rifles but really how often would a Sako fail? In Sask it is often below 40 below and hot in the summer and Ive been in the glades in July and Ive never seen a gun fail yet. Even old .303s and pump junk remingtons. In fact Ive had lil experience with decent guns
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Thats because those rifles were not chambered for powerful cartridges. Once you get into cartridges that produce more than 35 ft/lbs of recoil, the off the shelf, unmodified, wood stocks don't stand up very well.
 
mackillan said:
What would the best quality factory ammo be? Are accubonds sold in prerolled?
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I honestly don't know because I don't buy factory ammo. If I was in the market for factory .338 Winchester, I would choose several brands that were loaded with bullets in the style and weight that I wanted and see what shot the best, or more importantly, which if any, wouldn't shoot or feed in my particular rifle.
 
IF it has to be new then I would also say the Kimber. Nugget's rifle looks pretty nice and the trigger isn't bad either.
Not sure if you know Chester M. from around our area Sheephunter but all he used in Afrika was a Sako in 338. In fact that is the only rifle he used for all his worldwide conquests.

A gentleman's rifle has iron sights and a claw mounted scope and certainly is not chambered in a Yankee round.:popCorn:
You guys gotta go old school once........just once??????????
 
Noel said:
IF it has to be new then I would also say the Kimber. Nugget's rifle looks pretty nice and the trigger isn't bad either.
Not sure if you know Chester M. from around our area Sheephunter but all he used in Afrika was a Sako in 338. In fact that is the only rifle he used for all his worldwide conquests.

A gentleman's rifle has iron sights and a claw mounted scope and certainly is not chambered in a Yankee round.:popCorn:
You guys gotta go old school once........just once??????????
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Yes, I do know Chester....first-class gentleman.
 
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