New rifle very dirty barrel - update

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I got round to cleaning my new BVSS before taking it to the range. This is only my 5th brand new centre fire rifle but I was amazed at how dirty the barrel was. It took a lot of patches alternating between M pro 7, hoppes benchrest and #9 to get it even close to being clean. And I'm not done yet. The hoppes benchrest patches were coming out blue which indicates copper or something similar?

I have had less cleaning todo after firing 30 to 40 rounds at the range. I understand that it may have been test fired and could well have sat around at the distributors/dealers for a long time but wondered if others have experienced this.

I'm not concerned as I have'nt shot it yet, just wondered if others have had similar experience.
 
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Could have a slight burr in your barrel that may need to be polished out or broken in with a few rounds. Button (cut) rifled, right? Another possibility is the rifling could have been done backwards, meaning at some point the barrel got turned around, turned down and installed the wrong way. The rifling going in the other direction can be much sharper and shave the bullet on it's way out. Not extremely common, but possible. Take a look down your barrel, most have a right hand twist, or should.
 
Yep, button rifled with right hand twist. Hopefully I can get to the range tomorrow and find out how she shoots.
 
I bought a number of new savages and the barrels were all really dirty, it was no big deal as they all shot very very well. However I think Savage test fires them and then sprays a pile of oil/grease on them for shipping. I found that all my new savages had beaucoup gunk in the barrel...
 
tactical lever said:
Could have a slight burr in your barrel that may need to be polished out or broken in with a few rounds. Button (cut) rifled, right? Another possibility is the rifling could have been done backwards, meaning at some point the barrel got turned around, turned down and installed the wrong way. The rifling going in the other direction can be much sharper and shave the bullet on it's way out. Not extremely common, but possible. Take a look down your barrel, most have a right hand twist, or should.
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Not sure if I read the implications of your post or not, but when you talked about the barrel possibly being turned end for end and installed, I got the feeling that you thought the rifling would be the opposite twist if that was so. But, regardless of which end you look down a barrel, it is the same, so that would not be a way to know if it had been installed end for end. Also, Button and Cut rifling are two entirely different processes. Eagleye.
 
Eagleye said:
Not sure if I read the implications of your post or not, but when you talked about the barrel possibly being turned end for end and installed, I got the feeling that you thought the rifling would be the opposite twist if that was so. But, regardless of which end you look down a barrel, it is the same, so that would not be a way to know if it had been installed end for end. Also, Button and Cut rifling are two entirely different processes. Eagleye.
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That's what I was thinking, and you are right on both accounts. I did believe it was cut, however technically it is not. :redface:
 
mwjones said:
is ti possible to get "burrs" in a button rifled (SWAGED not cut?) barrel?
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Unless a finishing button or a combo button is used, the lands would be burred. And yes I was wrong about the cutting part. From what I previously read it sounded like it was cut. Colour me embarassed. Not sure how common it is to get a barrel that's burred, especially if they are using a combo button which Savage probably does. Some people have great success lapping the barrel, but who knows in this case.
 
Bought a Remington rimfire like that one time. Clean new on the shelf, but when I picked it up a few days later it was pretty dirty. I think mine was a store test drive issue though.
 
I bought a Mossberg 4X4, and it took a few hundred rounds for the barrel to "smooth" out. Prior to that, it took forever to clean, but now it's just a few patches. I also have a norc .22 and it took about 200 rounds to start shooting well, although it wasn't hard to clean.
 
Update on how it shoots

Finally got to shoot her today. This is the best group and only 5 rounds but I had a couple of 7 round groups on the way to this one that did not look too bad.

I think this gun has some promise and the dirty barrel meant nothing. :rockOn:

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I just noticed the same thing with a brand new Remington in 338 Lapua. First 15 rounds out of the barrel with cleaning between shots resulted in about an hour of cleaning once I got home to get the patches even close to clean before I gave up. The barrel definitely needs to be broken in as the accuracy seemed to suck at first. So far, 1.25" at 100 yds is the best group and this is not nearly good enough for this type of rifle. It did seem to get better with every string. Hopefully the cleaning will get better as well. Good luck.
 
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