New Ruger M77 Question????????

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How do the newer M77 ( Mk 2 I guess it is now) rugers compair to the older models? Ive got one purchased in the early 70s (its a 77R) and am considering replacing it with another one and am wondering how the barrels, actions ect. compair??

Thanx,
 
I find the barrel seems to get hot after 4-5 fairly quick shots. (.270). I figure thats probably pretty normal for most rifles though. Overall I dont see it being a problem at all.
 
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RT said:
How do the newer M77 ( Mk 2 I guess it is now) rugers compair to the older models? Ive got one purchased in the early 70s (its a 77R) and am considering replacing it with another one and am wondering how the barrels, actions ect. compair??

Thanx,

I've had rifles both in models. They all shot! Still have a tangsafety model in 7x57mm. Had a sweet MkII in 6.5x55mm that was bought new. Shot sub 1" right outta the box. Love both kinds... ;)
 
Salty said:
And the big difference; the new mark 2s are controlled round feed while the previous models were push feed.


Not all are as I have found out recently. I thought my old M77 in 25-06 was weird because it had a mauser type extractor, but was not CRF. The bottom of the bolt face completely encloses the rim and works as a push feed. But my M77 MarkII in 338 is a CRF and the bottom of the bolt face is open.
My buddies rifle, a MarkII (exactly the same as my 338) but in 270win is not a CRF, but is the same enclosed bottom boltface as my old M77. Basically a push feed. I think the CRF feeding is on the magnums only.

The main difference between the two is the trigger mechanism and the safety mechanism. (yours is a tang, the MarkII had a wing type safety beside the bolt. Personally I like the tang better). Also, the older rugers used different barrels over time so they were really hit or miss accuracywise. Some are incredibly accurate, and some couldnt hit the broad side of a barn. My M77 is one of the good ones. The MarkII's are good guns. I've shot a ####load of em, and the only complaint on some of them is the trigger. But like any gun, a smith can fix the problem in a few minutes, or if your mechanically inclined, you can do it in 20 minutes.
 
i have had both and the new mark 11 are lighter, better safety and better bolt design. i have heard of poor acuracy with the older m77's but the 300wm i owned was very acurate. i like the mark 11 better.
 
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Better barrels, nicer safety and they have control feed action, some what nicer rifle, i have a SS laminate left hand 25-06 and it has a medium weight barrel and it is not light but shoots 115 partitions under an inch all day long.
 
My brand new (2005) Ruger 77 Mk11 in 350RemMag feeds like crap, has a sticky wing safety, a creepy trigger (knew about that before I bought) and scored a serious deep groove down the side of each cartridge case every time a case was chambered (until I smoothed the ragged action rail edges myself).

But it's accurate. And I love ALL the 77 Mk11 features and the strength etc. of the rifle but just wish it wasn't so rough around the edges in terms of FUNCTIONING as designed. I bought it at Elwoop Epps and was not given much hope from them that Ruger service (somewhere in Quebec???) themselves would do anything to help. Kind of a catch 22 if you like the rifle but just want it simply to work right. Send it away and they offer no assurances it will be fixed or you'll get it back even (???).

I used it this past fall bear hunting knowing I had a single shot (?????) because I couldn't count on a second to feed. Not good.

If you buy a new Ruger 77 plan to have a private skilled smith give it the once over to make it function right. The factory doesn't have the time to build em right always it seems - nor fix their own screw ups.
 
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