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Just the end of the story the dealer and I worked out a deal that is very fair and I'm pleased with how it came out .He was very good about everything , how come firearms people can be so good but we're treated so poorly by everyone else..:confused::confused:
 
Just the end of the story the dealer and I worked out a deal that is very fair and I'm pleased with how it came out .He was very good about everything , how come firearms people can be so good but we're treated so poorly by everyone else..:confused::confused:

'cause most firearms people are more responsible than the "normal" population (just look at what we "play" with).

Just as well.:)
 
How about a Marlin with a broken extractor straight out of the box???

It was easier to order the part from Western Gun Parts and fix it myself than deal with the warranty run around...
 
How about a Marlin with a broken extractor straight out of the box???

It was easier to order the part from Western Gun Parts and fix it myself than deal with the warranty run around...

Once a gun is fired and used, I agree that its easier to just buy and/or repair a broken piece yourself instead of going through the warranty hassles. However, when its new in box.. and bought from a reputable dealer... why should the consumer have to deal with warranty issues before even firing the gun? Something is definitely not right with that! No one would put up with that with any other end-user product. Imagine picking up a shiny new truck or car at the dealership and it not starting up the first time you put the key in the ignition. Would you agree to have to send it in for repairs on your dime?
 
A couple of years back I bought a new in box Rem 700 in 243. Never used it, as I was planning on putting a heavy barrel 308 together. Changed plans, sold gun. Turns out the darn thing had a buggered extractor in it. The guy who bought it could not get it to extract at all! Contacted dealer I got it from, managed to get everything fixed up, but he told me that he had 5 new Remmy''s with major problems out of the box that year so far. Not impressed.

This seems to be occuring more often with several manufactures lately. Quality control is not what it used to be. My last Ruger "new" 10/22 had so much "slag" for lack of a better term around the action port, required a file to trim off. Sharp enough to rip flesh as I found out quickly.

This also applies to some factory ammo. I picked up a few boxes of Winchester 300 win mag PP 150gr ammo last fall to sight in a rifle. The gun had a custom Shilen barrel and was reputed to shoot under 1" with factory ammo. When I got to the range, I made a few discoveries.
1, the ammo had 3 distinct different stlyes of bullets. (exposed lead, expansion notches, location of canular.)
2, it shot 5" patterns at 100
3, you could hear a difference in the shots, and feel it as well.
Had 2 boxes left, took them home, pulled the bullets and weighed the charges. No frickin wonder! Lightest was 68.3gr. Heaviest was 74.5gr. Same lot # on boxes, but again some different bullet styles. WTF???

For the record, I went and found a box of federal 150gr's, tried them, 2-3 shot groups of .9" and 1.1". Not the gun's fault. Where is the quality control???
 
Glock4ever: I know the difference in the types of actions, I was just saying that I have seen and worked on so called lemons from all manufacturers. I have my own favourites and reasons for why they are my favourites but that wasn't what I was trying to put out here. I was simply saying that any manufacturer can have mistakes and once in a while someone will get it. As far as the Ruger Hawkeye goes, so far ours shine.
 
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