New Shipment of Norinco M14's from Marstar

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Hey all,
As most of you probably know the M-14/M-305 is on pre-order status right now through Marstar (first time they've done it with a Norc product I think?). In any case, I'm thinking about putting my info on the pre-order list for the next shipment, but after having thoroughly researched Norinco's history, I'm wondering what guarantee there is that the rifles won't have some defect or issue common to that batch?
I know there are still some '09 batch rifles floating around, and I could certainly pick up one of those, but I'm uncertain.

Any thoughts?

Thanks-
 
rishi65 said:
Hey all,
As most of you probably know the M-14/M-305 is on pre-order status right now through Marstar (first time they've done it with a Norc product I think?). In any case, I'm thinking about putting my info on the pre-order list for the next shipment, but after having thoroughly researched Norinco's history, I'm wondering what guarantee there is that the rifles won't have some defect or issue common to that batch?
I know there are still some '09 batch rifles floating around, and I could certainly pick up one of those, but I'm uncertain.

Any thoughts?

Thanks-
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I would not worry about Marstar.....they are solid! :)

You can always give them a call!

Their guarantee: "All Norinco products we sell are backed by both our Ironclad Guarantee and by our exclusive one year 'in Canada' parts/labour Norinco warranty for absolute peace of mind because we service what we sell!"
 
Badger had them in stock, I had mine in less than a week. I pre ordered a JAE stock (not form marstar) and am still waiting 3 years later. I don't do pre order if I can get the same thing somewhere else even if it costs a little more.
 
It makes me more comfortable that they back the product as strongly as they do. I guess I'll just have to be sure to shoot it a lot in the first year!
I think the Norc is a great deal, considering the number of different parts and platforms that exist for it. Personally I plan on making it a modestly modified deer/varmit rig, which aims for mid to low weight range, but heavy on durability. It's going to get used for sure.

Any suggestions for building a strong deer platform, and what are people using (brand/gr) for ammo?
 
rishi65 said:
Any suggestions for building a strong deer platform, and what are people using (brand/gr) for ammo?
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I'm using a scope mount I got from Canada Ammo (sponsoring dealer) and a 3x9 Bushnell Trophy scope with the DOA reticle on mine. I use Remington Express Core Lokt 150 gr ammo. It works well enough.
 
As Hungry would say, your rifle is as good as the parts the high school kids from China that made them are put together. LOL

Which is to say surprisingly well. Having just hosted his M14 clinic here in London, its clear to me that the 2007 and 2009 batch of rifles are excellent. Particularly the 2009 with the synthetic stocks. Out of 20 guys, there were no serious issues that couldn't be dealt with a day's worth of work.

If you get a gun without a welded flash hider, which I'm hoping for from Marstar, that's a big bonus. Most of the guys with welded flash hiders had to get pretty medieval with the grinder and hammer to get them off. Some were write offs.

I'm on pre-order with Marstar as well - since last summer. I'm not in a huge rush but I think my patience will run out if they aren't in by spring. By that point they will be about a year late. No slag on Marstar, I understand the difficulties they have to deal with but I need my fix.
 
the current poly and norcs with non welded bayo lug flash hiders are probably some of the nicest rifles so far when we look at some of the issues over the past few years.
some of the apparent improvements would be :
flash hider machining and dimension is much more consistant
headspace has been shrunk a few thou
oprods do not appear to be so sloppily fit as in the past
and the rear sights on most, not all, seem fairly functional and a higher percentage of them are correctly machined at the aperture and the rear sight base center mark.
overall, I would say that QC at the factories seems to have picked up somewhat.
Honestly i don't see where they can be improved any further and still keep the price low..


what i would like to see...... more attention paid to machining the gas cylinders true and bring back theat nice grey , durable parkerizing...... that black park on the new rifles is thin at best.
bang for the buck....... any of these rifles you choose is good value for the $$$ even if it needs a few little tweaks. Tuning and tweaking are fun stuff to do and with all the support here on CGN...... buying and owning a chinese m14 type rifle or an M1A for that matter, is just a fun thing to do and gives us all a good excuse to spend more time with our friends on gunnutz ;)
 
I recently picked up one of the m305s from Badger arms and I can say that it is a great rifle. Shots great right out of the box, but maybe this new batch will be even better :cool: Personally I couldn't wait.
 
I really appreciate all the heads up and advice guys. I do really think that there's a good chance the next batch (whenever it finalllllyyy arrives) will be of equal or better quality to the 2007 and '09 batches.
As for the parkerizing, I do have to agree that the gray looked better, and from what I've read, was tougher as well.
I'm going to have to check into the waiting list, and see if maybe Marstar can give me ANY information on when the next batch might arrive, hopefully I'll be jumping on the bandwagon late in the game!
I'll definitely be relying heavily on this site to help me set the rifle up the way I want.

I know the adjusters on some of the rear sights were of poor quality, but what were the machining faults that were mentioned?
 
Has anybody else tried to contact Marstar within the last few days regarding the status of these rifles? I sent a butt load of emails to inquire but haven't got boo in return. I cant phone from work during their normal working hours. This batch had better be worth the extended wait... I'm trying hard to stay optimistic.
 
rishi65 said:
It makes me more comfortable that they back the product as strongly as they do. I guess I'll just have to be sure to shoot it a lot in the first year!
I think the Norc is a great deal, considering the number of different parts and platforms that exist for it. Personally I plan on making it a modestly modified deer/varmit rig, which aims for mid to low weight range, but heavy on durability. It's going to get used for sure.

Any suggestions for building a strong deer platform, and what are people using (brand/gr) for ammo?
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When I think light weight, durable deer/varmint rig my mind does not think M 14. I love the platform, but the right bolt action is lighter, more durable/reliable and more versatile for hunting. However, if you only want one rifle, and you want an M 14, it certainly can be hunted with and most likely will not fail you.
 
cam1936 said:
When I think light weight, durable deer/varmint rig my mind does not think M 14S. I love the platform, but the right bolt action is lighter, more durable/reliable and more versatile for hunting. However, if you only want one rifle, and you want an M 14S, it certainly can be hunted with and most likely will not fail you.
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In the part of the Maritimes that I live in the majority of deer are taken between 50 and 75 yards. With that said, I know the M-14S isn't the tip top deer platform. A good bolt gun will be lighter, more accurate, easier to wield and carry more energy to the target with the same round vs an M-14S.
But the M-14S is FUN. It's something different, and given that it can send a .308 accurately out to 100-150 yards, it's plenty for what I require.
I'm a stand hunter anyway, so carrying the firearm for long periods is only a worry on the way to the stand.
 
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Careful how you phrase things - there be anti's lurking.

The M14S is a deer hunting rifle - NOT a battle implement. No different than a Remington 742, except that it's better looking and can take some accessories intended for the US military M14.

Also, an M14S is not and never has been select-fire.
 
rishi65 said:
In the part of the Maritimes that I live in the majority of deer are taken between 50 and 75 yards. With that said, I know the M-14S isn't the tip top deer platform. A good bolt gun will be lighter, more accurate, easier to wield and carry more energy to the target with the same round vs an M-14S.
But the M-14S is FUN. It's something different, and given that it can send a .308 accurately out to 100-150 yards, it's plenty for what I require.
I'm a stand hunter anyway, so carrying the firearm for long periods is only a worry on the way to the stand.
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Claven2 said:
Careful how you phrase things - there be anti's lurking.

The M14S is a deer hunting rifle - NOT a battle implement. No different than a Remington 742, except that it's better looking and can take some accessories intended for the US military M14.

Also, an M14S is not and never has been select-fire.
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Cleaned it up-
 
rishi65 said:
In the part of the Maritimes that I live in the majority of deer are taken between 50 and 75 yards. With that said, I know the M-14S isn't the tip top deer platform. A good bolt gun will be lighter, more accurate, easier to wield and carry more energy to the target with the same round vs an M-14S.
But the M-14S is FUN. It's something different, and given that it can send a .308 accurately out to 100-150 yards, it's plenty for what I require.
I'm a stand hunter anyway, so carrying the firearm for long periods is only a worry on the way to the stand.
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That it is and it will probably make an excellent rifle for your style of hunting. Different regions and different views on what a rifle should be. I hunt sheep and deer in the mountains where the weather often sucks, the shots are long and there is far more hiking than anything else. When I think hunting rifle I think: light weight, optics, flat shooting, rugged and reliable.
 
cam1936 said:
That it is and it will probably make an excellent rifle for your style of hunting. Different regions and different views on what a rifle should be. I hunt sheep and deer in the mountains where the weather often sucks, the shots are long and there is far more hiking than anything else. When I think hunting rifle I think: light weight, optics, flat shooting, rugged and reliable.
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Most times, even 8ft up in a Birch, I'm lucky if I can establish a clear line of sight more than 50-75 yards out. Add snow and rain to that, along with early morning/evening lighting, and you're really starting to push it even at 75 yards. I still need it to be rugged, as the walk into the stand isn't long, but it's heavy, heavy brush, thorns, and branches. If the animal runs, the ability to place a quick follow up shot is something that isn't an option in such tight quarters with a bolt action.
You're dead on about the way area affects peoples decisions about what type of equipment they require. Someday I'd love to do some hunting on rolling style hills, and for that type of shooting, I'd be using a flat shooting, mid caliber, bolt rifle.
I appreciate the reply!!
 
Alright, well I guess I should've done this from the start, but I e-mailed Marstar yesterday. Anyone who says they don't reply fast is dead wrong, had an e-mail waiting in reply when I woke up this morning, and these guys are an hour behind me!
I'll definitely be purchasing through them!! It'll be worth the wait!

On 2/8/2011 9:06 PM, ben p wrote:
Hi there,
I'm just wondering when the pre-order shipment of Norinco M-14S is supposed to arrive. I know a number of people have been waiting on the list for quite some time. Given your folks guarantee I'd prefer to purchase the rifle through you. If you could please provide me with some information regarding their expected arrival it would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,

Ben-


"The factory says we should have them next month.... Thank you for your loyal support...."


And there you have it-
 
so... using a norinco m14 as a hunting rifle in alberta and near the sask border for those 200+ yd shots may not be the best idea?


I really wanted to hunt with one of these...
 
Zionad said:
so... using a norinco m14 as a hunting rifle in alberta and near the sask border for those 200+ yd shots may not be the best idea?


I really wanted to hunt with one of these...
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I would not hesitate to take a moose, black bear, elk, or any deer that walks the planet with an properly set up and tuned m14s out to 300 yards. It is capable of delivering a .308 bullet out to that distance as easily and effectively as any bolt gun in a hunting application. I regularly hunt with an m14s, I have other rifles, but the m14s gets it's fair share of field time, and i do 75% or more of my hunting on foot. Took one of my bucks this year at 125 yards -ish , iron sights, federal blue box 150 gr. The m14s, properly tuned and set up is an affordable and reliable hunting implement.
 
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