New shotguns, MAG-FED and SHORTIES - NEW PICS

leflingeur said:
Where the h*** do they get that ''16 inch'' regulation? I couldn't found nothing about that in the ''firarm act'', so what is it? they (lieberals working at CFC) decided arbitrarely or they ''feel'' like a shotgun with a barrel less than 16inch is a handgun? WTF?:eek:
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Yak....so we get rid of long gun register and they call every thing handgun?
 
They'll never get away with that designation. 16 inch barreled rifles have been sold for years.

What they'll go after is rifles with a 'pistol grip'. And i think dlask has a pretty good case.
 
Foxer said:
They'll never get away with that designation. 16 inch barreled rifles have been sold for years.

What they'll go after is rifles with a 'pistol grip'. And i think dlask has a pretty good case.
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Given the weight of even an 8.5" PG shotgun, it is hard to prove it is "intended" to be fired with one hand. It is possible, but then you can fire just about any rifle with one hand.
 
Given the weight of even an 8.5" PG shotgun, it is hard to prove it is "intended" to be fired with one hand. It is possible, but then you can fire just about any rifle with one hand.
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Quite true. Further - if it is a 'one handed' gun, why does it have a foregrip? etc etc. I don't think they'll have too much trouble demonstrating that it's a small rifle, not a handgun.

However - the challenge will be giving the judge a 'definition' he can live with. What's to stop me taking a contender rifle, throwing a 15 inch barrel on, and a pistol grip, and calling it a pistol grip rifle? Nothing under the law. But - it's SOLD that way as a pistol in the states and here. So.. what's the difference?

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out in the end, but i think dlask has the right of it.
 
michaelsabre said:
Yak....so we get rid of long gun register and they call every thing handgun?
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Of course, that way when they try to ban handguns, they'll get a whole pile 'o stuff that's not handguns. Oh, that whole statement just makes me cringe. Sorry.......I'll keep those negative waves to myself from now on.:runaway:

Okay, I know this should go in the legalese forum, but my unanswered post there might be better served here while we're on the topic, so my apologies to the mods in advance. There has been alot of discussion around the Dlask initiative, but I for one do not understand the premise behind the court challenge. Without taking the thread too far from the original intention, can someone give me an brief synopsis on what the premise of the challenge is, and what the outcome will ultimately mean for us; in particular what might it mean for these great items from CanAm??
 
Can somebody tell me whose the boss of those ''FRT lab'' people? I want to write a letter or more, they must be subordinated to a mnister of some sort, is it S. Day? There is no way a USA regulation will tell how canadian should make their laws.:mad:
 
Weapontech said:
Without taking the thread too far from the original intention, can someone give me an brief synopsis on what the premise of the challenge is, and what the outcome will ultimately mean for us; in particular what might it mean for these great items from CanAm??
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The short version as I understand it.....

Dlask asked for an opinion clarifying the definitions of restricted. His (correct in my opinion) interpretation was that the law as written allowed for the manufacture or conversion of a firearm with commercial parts to under an OAL of 26 inches, provide the gun was not semi-auto, and did not have a folding stock.

The RCMP agreed with his interpretation at first. They later made a determination that the 8.5 inch pistol grip only shotgun was in there opinion, a handgun and restricted.

In my opinion, this gun is not designed or altered to be fired with the action of just one hand.
 
Well there seems to be some dispute within the police itself.

THere are pro and anti gunners everywhere, even within the ranks of the police.
 
Keep Fighting

Don't give them an inch they'll take a mile. If they had it there way all gun would be destroyed. Right now we are at the start of change. It may take awhile although we might not be going in the right direction yet we've at least stopped going in the wrong direction. I know it sounds weird but some people just enjoy ruining other peoples interests and until more of those people can be removed and put in a daycare were there ideas might help, might we keep fighting and buying guns.
 
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I bought a 12.5, and I will get an 8.5 mag fed when they show up. If there are enough of these things out there in responsible hands, we may be able to put up a reasonable argument for amnesty. (Edit) sorry, I meant sanity!
 
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I know this is getting off topic but being around during this kind of legal wrangling is both fascinating and terrifying to behold. Props to dlask and everyone else who spends their time, energy, and money to force these issues before the system.

As someone who used to really enjoy bushwhacking with my kids (before black bear attacks became WAY too common) I am watching the forum closely for news as to how this might turn out in the end. It will probably be years before it is settled, however.
 
When they come with their chequebook you will have to tell them the sad tale of your horrific canoeing accident. Watch out though, they will also bring search warrants and metal detectors.
 
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