New Smith and Wesson Bullpup SG The SW MP 12
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Its an interesting shotgun, and more variety on the Canadian market its always good. Mechanically, I have nothing to say about the gun as I have not handled one. Aesthetically, it looks like they tried too hard to incorporate too many of the design elements of the M&P pistol. Like we get it, its and M&P shot gun. Also, is it just me or does it look like the grip and fire control is really far / low from the barrel?
James Reeves and TFBTV are great. He doesn't take him self too seriously and he is one of the more entertaining firearms youtubers.
EL34/6L6, let us know how it works out and what your thoughts are.
James Reeves and TFBTV are great. He doesn't take him self too seriously and he is one of the more entertaining firearms youtubers.
EL34/6L6, let us know how it works out and what your thoughts are.
Very nice! First impressions?
Why??? Do you have a dog in this fight or just being some kinda shît disturber?
Honestly, couldn't even watch it. That guy is so goddamn annoying. He's a click whore, and a review lambasting a new touted product gets more clicks than one praising it.
He gets roasted pretty good in his own comments tho, so that was the only funny thing.
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That was truly painful. Couldn't make it past the 1 minute mark. Does he ever actually get hands on with the gun? Or is the whole thing just more of what he thinks is witty monologue? My only take away is that douche really loves to hear himself talk and fancies himself quite the clever gent. (spoiler alert: he's not)
Also, quick question for you EL34/6L6, am I correct is assuming that the front vertical grip is easily removable (I'm guessing a couple of screws?) for those who may want to use more of a traditional horizontal ftip on the forend? the M&P style serrations on the forend look like they'd be fairly grippy.
Also, quick question for you EL34/6L6, am I correct is assuming that the front vertical grip is easily removable (I'm guessing a couple of screws?) for those who may want to use more of a traditional horizontal ftip on the forend? the M&P style serrations on the forend look like they'd be fairly grippy.
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Yes the vertical grip is attached via MLok, there are two MLok slots on the underside of the forend. I think the forend will be a lot trickier to get back on than it was to take off.
There are actually some integrated thumb and finger hand holds that I discovered last night, so that combined with a good pair of gloves and the m&p slide serrations will likely result in me not even requiring a forend attachment. You will need to hold the forend specifically near the front serration and installed pistol, because having your hand further back than that on the forend will cause the slide not to fully retract. Not a big deal, just be conscious of hand position at all times.
All of the gun is metal with exception of the forend and lower section of the gun.
It is very well balanced. The lower grip area is positioned exactly in the middle of the firearm.
There are 11in from the back of the grip to the buttstock and 11in from the front trigger guard to the muzzle. This was likely not by accident. When you hold the gun neither the front nor back wants to tilt or dive on you.
I like the various m&p branding on the gun personally. A few stand out, but there are some of them that are more subtle than the others.
Threaded for Remchokes..nuff said. Finally a gun that my tactical breacher choke looks good on and actually has a function with.
The tube selector toggle buttons are large and can be prone to inadvertent pressing if you lay the gun down on its side. But you should be proving and inspecting any firearm that you pick up anyways. With the action open, the tube selector switch is fixed and INOPERABLE, so putting the gun down with the action open will prevent the switch from inadvertently engaging, which you really should be doing anyways for safe handling.
Haven't figured out if there is a shell count indicator, I don't think there is so you'll just have to count your shots. It does have a chamber loaded indicator where a metal notch raises from in front of the action so you can visibly see that a round is chambered.
The m&p grip is excellent and so is the AR style safety.
I find it fairly easy to load, the load assist buttons are a real neat feature. Once you become accustomed to them they're a breeze to use. There is a release button at the bottom of the buttstock that allows you to pull back the action near the ejection port in order to clear any jams. So far the gunbis feeding and ejecting high brass authentic weight dummy rounds with ease.
Trigger is a bit heavy but not really a complaint.
I attached some flip up sites not sure if I'm going to do a red dot or not. So far it's rather impressive and it's a seemingly quality built firearm.
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Thanks for all the info, EL34/6L6! Much appreciated. This gun is getting more interesting to me by the minute. I went form mildly curious to now I think I may need to buy one of these. LOL
I definitely need to take a look at one very soon.
I definitely need to take a look at one very soon.
Dissenting opinion. He doesn't take himself too seriously at all, granted, he is a fan of disturbing ####, however, I felt that his comments, however annoying the delivery may be, have a place at the table.
-S.
