New Smith & Wesson 1911

Does it have the Series 80 type firing pin block safety junk in it?

Looked at a used/exc stainless S&W 1911 recently & was set to buy it until I saw it had it & declined. Too bad, another ingenious solution to a non-existent problem.

S&W does make a nice looking 1911, though......................

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Does it have the Series 80 type firing pin block safety junk in it?
No, it has a Swartz-type safety that is actuated by the grip safety (which, of course, means that it does not affect trigger pull).

On a side note, I heard that S&W will soon be ditching the safety and switching to Springfield-style lightweight titanium firing pins. Some of their new models already come that way.
 
External extractor gave me no problem , and My S&W 1911 shoot since 2003, I had put +25K round in it in practice and IPSC shooting match. Dont forget that S&W used this type of extractor since they introduced the Mdl 39 back in the fifties.

Yves
 
External extractor gave me no problem , and My S&W 1911 shoot since 2003, I had put +25K round in it in practice and IPSC shooting match. Dont forget that S&W used this type of extractor since they introduced the Mdl 39 back in the fifties.

Yves
Do you occasionally gets empty cases thrown in your face? That's the only thing I don't like about my brother's SW1911.
 
More reliable eh - I wonder why Nighthawk / Wilson / Brown and all the custom builders use internal extractor.

I also hear Kimber had reliable external extractor run.
 
Yes, sometimes I got an empty on my head or in my shirt...LOL! But that didn't stop me to buy a S&W 1911. They are good solid gun, forged and made in USA by one of the best. And there quality is on par with Kimber Springfield and other production 1911. I have handled a last year gold cuo from Colt, and other then the name , the quality/price ratio is not that good.

Before that I owned a 1991 from colt , who is a rather stock gun, and it was an excellent one, better then what you get from Colt now. I had 2 Springfield Armory , and those were excellent.

But I am A S&W owner at heart.
 
More reliable eh - I wonder why Nighthawk / Wilson / Brown and all the custom builders use internal extractor.

I also hear Kimber had reliable external extractor run.

I think they stick with it for nostalgia. I actually saw a Nighthawk fail twice at the range the other day. Last week I saw a Kimber, Para, Dan Wesson, and a STI all have failures of one sort or another? Every week these stock guns are failing in some form. I have no idea why?

I didn't get up close to see what happened but I think they were failures to extract or to feed.
 
Larry Vickers has said that one of the weaknesses of the 1911 design is the internal extractor. A properly done external extractor is a much better proposition than the internal extractor that needs tuning and setting up. Now if Smith would just dump the firing pin safety......
 
That is what I'm wondering - why the external extractor?

Nice 1911 btw.

Because it works! My S&W 1911 PD has not jammed once since I bought it in late 2007.

On the other hand, if you come at it from a traditionalist point of view, I could understand your point, but then why buy a 1911 A1 or a custom model?

If the original design was so great, the new 1911's on the market wouldn't have over sized ejection windows that are beveled...
 
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Enlarged ejection ports aren't for reliability, they're to keep case mouths from being dented. With a properly adjusted extractor, there is no reliability advantage over a regular ejection port.
 
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