New Steyr -Sweet Zombie Jebus-
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I just recieved mine the other day, was purchased from Wolverine Supplies. The pistol sits quite nicely in the hand and I can't wait to give it a workout at the range. It is quite a small pistol for a restricted, nearly an inch shy of the hieght of my CZ75 and about and inch shorter as well. The triangular sights are quite quick to use, I really like that system. If it shoots as good as it looks and feels I will be one very happy camper indeed.
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The reason that the prohib barrel length was set where it was is to include more pistols, not to exclude. They wanted to ban as many as they possibly could. Remember, these laws were written by people who are NOT our friends.
Picked up a .40 S&W a month ago. That and a Browning Buck Mark .22 were my first guns. The Steyr has to be the plug-ugliest thing I've ever seen but every awkward line was put there for a reason. It is an absolute delight to shoot, getting 10 inch groups at 50 yards even in my inexperienced hands.
Today I took my BUL G Cherokee to the range. A much, much more attractive gun; a pain in the **** to shoot. Even with the stock attached, it was less accurate than the Steyr. It's also a pain to field strip where the Steyr comes apart in seconds.
So far I've put 250 rounds through the Steyr. Even my sister likes shooting it.
Today I took my BUL G Cherokee to the range. A much, much more attractive gun; a pain in the **** to shoot. Even with the stock attached, it was less accurate than the Steyr. It's also a pain to field strip where the Steyr comes apart in seconds.
So far I've put 250 rounds through the Steyr. Even my sister likes shooting it.
Plated, lead, FMJ whatever you have/want...it's with polygonal barrel they don't recommend lead bullets.
That's why most people preffer standard rifling... and no, IIRC there is no such barrel for Steyr for that reason...
Yah, the above comment is exactly right. You can shoot whatever you want. Lead bullets are fine. Reloads are fine too. Personally I don't see a lot of commercially available 9mm that isn't copper jacketed. In the stores I frequent, generally all that is available in 9mm is Remmington metal case, Remmington leadless, Remminton hollow point, Winchester FMJ, WinClean, American Eagle FMJ, and sometimes some stuff by Speer or Fiochi - all of which is copper jacketted. I'd be interested in trying ".22 LR"-style lead bullets in 9mm, but I haven't seen anything like that in the shops.FN said:
The point I was trying to make - not very well - in my earlier post is that the rifling in the Steyr is a fairly pronouced version of the land-and-groove type, and it takes longer to clean. With a Glock with the hex rifling, I find I can get it clean almost just with a couple of patches and a little brushing. I usually use some Wipeout and try and get it really perfect, but that is just because I am a freak when it comes to cleaning my guns. It's not necessary by any means. But with Steyr it takes a bit more time and work. I try and get the grooves cleaned out completely, so I let some Wipeout sit in there for several hours - sometime over night, then wipe it out with a patch, then use a brush, then patches.... etc.
The Steyr is a little more work, but I do find it to be somewhat more accurate than a Glock when it is properly cleaned-up and maintained - but just slightly. Glock is an accurate gun too and whatever difference there is between them probably has more to do with my own shooting style and maybe the lower bore-axis than the type of rifling.
This Steyr is an interesting looking pistol. I'd like to shoot one to see how it's low bore axis compares to the Glock in terms of taming recoil. What are they priced at?
With your slide off your Glock look down at the frame from the top. You will see where the metal trigger bar comes back toward the rear of the frame it forms a "+" called the "cruciform". That part of the trigger bar sits up on top of the "safety ledge" when the trigger is in it's forward position. The rear part of the trigger bar engages the rear part of the firing pin lug when the pistol is assembled in this position. When firing, as you pull the trigger rearward the "cruciform" drops down off the "safety ledge" and allows the rear of the trigger bar to disengage from the firing pin lug. The trigger bar also has a part called the "vertical extension of the tigger bar" that engages the firing pin safety stop as the trigger bar moves rearward. These two actions allow the firing pin to then be able to go forward under spring pressure and contact the primer thru the breech face and fire the pistol. When assembled and with the trigger reset so that the trigger bar is in it's most forward position the Glock then will not fire if "dropped" as the two above safety features prevent the the firing pin from moving forward to fire the pistol.
If you want to "see" how this works, with the slide off the frame put forward pressure on the vertical extension of the trigger bar as you pull the trigger rearward. You will see the cruciform drop down of the safety ledge as the trigger bar travels back. You will also note that the vertical extension of the trigger bar also moves back with the trigger bar and where it would engage the firing pin safety stop on the slide if it was assembled on the frame.
damndirtyape said:Do you know how the drop safety on a Glock works? I haven't read up on it and haven't spotted/recognized it in my pistol during cleaning yet. I'm not challenging, just asking
With your slide off your Glock look down at the frame from the top. You will see where the metal trigger bar comes back toward the rear of the frame it forms a "+" called the "cruciform". That part of the trigger bar sits up on top of the "safety ledge" when the trigger is in it's forward position. The rear part of the trigger bar engages the rear part of the firing pin lug when the pistol is assembled in this position. When firing, as you pull the trigger rearward the "cruciform" drops down off the "safety ledge" and allows the rear of the trigger bar to disengage from the firing pin lug. The trigger bar also has a part called the "vertical extension of the tigger bar" that engages the firing pin safety stop as the trigger bar moves rearward. These two actions allow the firing pin to then be able to go forward under spring pressure and contact the primer thru the breech face and fire the pistol. When assembled and with the trigger reset so that the trigger bar is in it's most forward position the Glock then will not fire if "dropped" as the two above safety features prevent the the firing pin from moving forward to fire the pistol.
If you want to "see" how this works, with the slide off the frame put forward pressure on the vertical extension of the trigger bar as you pull the trigger rearward. You will see the cruciform drop down of the safety ledge as the trigger bar travels back. You will also note that the vertical extension of the trigger bar also moves back with the trigger bar and where it would engage the firing pin safety stop on the slide if it was assembled on the frame.
ghostie that's a great photo you got there (btw what camera did you use?)
Steyr is about the size of the G19 but it weighs more: 30oz with an empty (metal) magazine, 27oz without. So it's a little heavier than a Glock, but feels very light though, maybe becase of the great egronocics. Recoil is minimal; it recoil less than my heavier, larger 92FS (I still like Beretta more )
they go for about the same (or less) than a Glock 17/22: ~$800
Steyr is about the size of the G19 but it weighs more: 30oz with an empty (metal) magazine, 27oz without. So it's a little heavier than a Glock, but feels very light though, maybe becase of the great egronocics. Recoil is minimal; it recoil less than my heavier, larger 92FS (I still like Beretta more
)you're making it sound like it's a bad thingAm I the only one who would be reluctant to own a pistol that had 'Man-licker' on the side?
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redstarevolution said:Am I the only one who would be reluctant to own a pistol that had 'Man-licker' on the side?
Geez, you'd also miss out on one of the all time great rifles of the last century... the venerable Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 rifle in 6.5x54 MS...
Article about the rifle & ctg....
http://www.chuckhawks.com/m-s_carbine.htm
