I'm looking to get into Black Rifles. I absolutely love AR-15's and was planning on buying a Stag Model 2T some time this year once I have aquired the appropriate funds. After some consideration though I have started to question an AR as my first black rifle, mainly due to the restricted status. I own an M&P9 right now and very rarely shoot it as I cannot find time to get to the range. I do most of my non-restricted shooting at a friends house in the country. I'm looking at the XCR as the most likely alternative and am curious as how it stacks up reliabilty wise, I'm also curious about it's functionality as a varmint gun (accuracy and range?).
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Non-restricted black rifles generally command a huge price premium. The AR 180b seems to be a popular alternative, but I have heard some good things about the XCR as well.
If money is of no object, also consider the Swiss Arms rifles. From what I was told, none of them will be an AR.
Good luck with the search
If money is of no object, also consider the Swiss Arms rifles. From what I was told, none of them will be an AR.
Good luck with the search
The main unrestriced rifles you are going to need to read about will be the...
Tavor - Bullpup, fairly pricey around $3000
XCR - Piston driven AR style, around $2500
Swiss Arms - Great quality but lots of plastics, $3500+
But there are many more, and many threads about them here.
Tavor - Bullpup, fairly pricey around $3000
XCR - Piston driven AR style, around $2500
Swiss Arms - Great quality but lots of plastics, $3500+
But there are many more, and many threads about them here.
I have never shot one, but I recall hearing they have pretty bad triggers and arent that accurate. I could really be wrong as this is the internet and people make crap up all the time.
I never understood why people say that. If I can shoot under 1moa with my Tikka, why would I not be able to shoot that with my XCR? If my XCR shoots ~1.5Moa, cant I shoot more accurately than my XCR?
You've never held a Swiss Arms rifle, have you? It's the only rifle you listed made of steel. There is no plastic at all on it.
AR have been using plastic stocks, hand guards and grips since Vietnam
I was just giving the rookie a tiny bit of info to get the ball rolling! I wasnt trying to offend anyone..
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i have an M&P-15 and love it! i just order a .22 conversion kit for it so i can play for cheap, but what id REALY LOVE is a swiss arms SIG 522Lr. they look like a ton of fun to shoot and there about 500$ i think, maybe more in canada... if you can find one. if i ever find one, its mine for sure!
