****New to Canada****T12N MINI THERMAL SIGHT ~In-Stock~ Only $899~

LexInfidelis said:
Any chance these will work with IR laser devices?
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I dont think so, not for the civilian market anyhow. Two systems operate at two different wavelengths. However I read that FLIR SeaSpot can somehow work at both wave lengths.
 
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LexInfidelis said:
Any chance these will work with IR laser devices?
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No. Wrong bandwith of radiation. These pick up the long wave radiation that all objects emit, and temperature of the object controls which wavelength is emitted most.

IR is short wave radiation just outside of the visible light spectrum.
 
Guys, these are fun toys bit practically speaking won't be at all useful while hunting unless it's totally dark and your pray is within 10 feet of you in an open lawn with neatly cut grass. Trees and tall grass masks body heat on these units. Anyone who doesn't want to be disappointed hold on to our cash.
 
LexInfidelis said:
Any chance these will work with IR laser devices?
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No. That's not how thermal works.

TV-PressPass said:
Just some thermal facts here fellas:

Because you're seeing radiation, not light, these devices cannot "cowitness" behind any glass optic. You can certainly mount in front, as long as you're comfortable magnifying in on what is essentially a tiny TV screen.

These devices will not work with an IR laser. IR lasers are meant to worth with image intensified night vision (the green stuff) not thermal imaging.

When we talk about detection range, remember there's a big difference between "that is a heat source" and "that is a coyote." An experienced user can pick out hot spots for further investigation through the primary optic.

The 45 offset pictured in the original post is a solid setup for these little guys.

Now the cool stuff: thermal can also see through dust, fog, and most kinds of smoke and camouflage.

For under $1000 these things are miles beyond what you could get in the past 10 years. Especially with the reticle and zeroing software that other manufacturers are so hesitant to export. But 200 yards would be pushing it, unless your heat source is something exceptionally large...like a tank?
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So would you say this is more for pitch dark CQB to mid -range? For identification purpose but not to be rely on as sight?


TV-PressPass said:
Just some thermal facts here fellas:

Because you're seeing radiation, not light, these devices cannot "cowitness" behind any glass optic. You can certainly mount in front, as long as you're comfortable magnifying in on what is essentially a tiny TV screen.

These devices will not work with an IR laser. IR lasers are meant to worth with image intensified night vision (the green stuff) not thermal imaging.

When we talk about detection range, remember there's a big difference between "that is a heat source" and "that is a coyote." An experienced user can pick out hot spots for further investigation through the primary optic.

The 45 offset pictured in the original post is a solid setup for these little guys.

Now the cool stuff: thermal can also see through dust, fog, and most kinds of smoke and camouflage.

For under $1000 these things are miles beyond what you could get in the past 10 years. Especially with the reticle and zeroing software that other manufacturers are so hesitant to export. But 200 yards would be pushing it, unless your heat source is something exceptionally large...like a tank?
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My biggest problem with the model showcased here is the slow refresh rate of 9hz (which makes the image quite choppy and laggy) and the narrow field of view at 25 degrees. I am assuming that this is the 2x magnification version.

The 1x magnification version that is 30hz and 50 degree field of view seems far superior for me, seeing as 2x magnification with a 60m effective range seems moot...

Are you looking to bring in their other models?
 
I'd love to see the T12W (100+M range) up here or the T12V (150+m range) models up here and then I would consider buying one. The T12N with its 60+ m range is a bit on the short side for using it effectively for hunting IMHO. It would be much better for home renovations with the 25 degree FOV.

Ian
 
Smitsauce said:
I'd love to see the T12W (100+M range) up here or the T12V (150+m range) models up here and then I would consider buying one. The T12N with its 60+ m range is a bit on the short side for using it effectively for hunting IMHO. It would be much better for home renovations with the 25 degree FOV.

Ian
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From what I read the T12N is only good for 30!yards from the review
 
Even more reason to get the other 100+m and 150+ m versions up here as most companies exaggerate their capabilities. Not saying that this is the case with these as I haven't used one. At least if it says 100-150 you might get closer to having a real life 100m sight!
 
Smitsauce said:
Even more reason to get the other 100+m and 150+ m versions up here as most companies exaggerate their capabilities. Not saying that this is the case with these as I haven't used one. At least if it says 100-150 you might get closer to having a real life 100m sight!
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Yep that's what I'm thinking cut ther maximum distence 1/2 will be more realistic Distance
I don't think you will get 100 yards more like 75 tops
 
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