New to Coyote Hunting - BC

Suther

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So Im interested in predator hunting. Specifically coyote to start.

So whats the deal in BC? Reading the regs, I see that its a fur-bearing animal in the definitions. So that means I need to harvest the fur, right? Im told that they are not worth anything though?

Also I plan to use a 270, cause its what I have. I understand that these can do major damage to the hides, but if they are worthless, should I really give a damn? what about aiming for the head? Or downloading to a lower velocity?

Im just not really sure where to go from here... Help!
 
ive heard on many forum that you can sell them either raw or tanned for something like 30-60$ each.
maybe it depends on the province, dont know. might be worth it to check your local fishing hunting/game preserving place.

most people i heard of go .223 with bullet that dont expend or fragments.
 
Use the .270

The BC law requires you bring the dead coyote to your dwelling. That's it, after that you can do what you want with it, could even take it back to where you shot it.

Good luck!
 
Good luck from Manitoba. Bagged a nice one last weekend.She was about 30lbs. There coats are getting ready for winter. If the hide is no good you can always make a European Head Mount with the skull.



Cheers
Jerad
 
Regarding what to do with a coyote after the kill...if you don't have a cast iron stomach and you want to skin the critter, don't spend a bunch of money on an expensive meal...or one that will taste terrible comeing back up...because chances are it will before your done.

A tip or two before skinning a yote...spray the animal liberally top to bottom, front to back...twice... with a pet store flee killer and then put in a big garbage bag for a couple of hrs...yotes are the most flee/bug infested critters I've ever skinned. After putting in the bag spray inside the bag with some sort of odder depressant.

And after all that, go to the hardware and buy some of those paper face/dust masks and spray them with your wifes best perfume...you might get through the job with only a gag or two..
 
fingers284 said:
Regarding what to do with a coyote after the kill...if you don't have a cast iron stomach and you want to skin the critter, don't spend a bunch of money on an expensive meal...or one that will taste terrible comeing back up...because chances are it will before your done.

A tip or two before skinning a yote...spray the animal liberally top to bottom, front to back...twice... with a pet store flee killer and then put in a big garbage bag for a couple of hrs...yotes are the most flee/bug infested critters I've ever skinned. After putting in the bag spray inside the bag with some sort of odder depressant.

And after all that, go to the hardware and buy some of those paper face/dust masks and spray them with your wifes best perfume...you might get through the job with only a gag or two..
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What is so gross about it? The smell??

My friend is a professional meat cutter, so he'll probably be doing that part.. But from what i gather the 270 doesn't leave the pelts in sell-able condition??? So its probably not worth my time and effort to skin, So Im wondering what my other options are for disposal? Im over an hour away from anywhere I can hunt, so I'd have to drive there and back a second time to dispose of the carcass - a 3-4 hour endeavor.
 
If it was me, and I was lucky enough to bag one, I would skin the yote from a tree on site. Peel the skin off until you reach the head, lop of head and bring back to your place of residence. Leave the rest for the birds. Good luck and Happy Hunting
 
J_K_S said:
If it was me, and I was lucky enough to bag one, I would skin the yote from a tree on site. Peel the skin off until you reach the head, lop of head and bring back to your place of residence. Leave the rest for the birds. Good luck and Happy Hunting
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Thats not a bad idea. Saves me from having to drive all the way back...

Whats the best method for getting the skull cleaned up?
 
Theres a cpl different methods. I prefer to cut hide away with knife. Then I boil the head in a cast iron pot (outside) until the flesh is cooked. Then most of the flesh comes off easier. After I get the bigger chunks off I will let the head sit in a pail of water for a cpl weeks letting the bacteria do most of the work. Final step is to bleach the skull by soaking it in 40% hydrogen peroxide for about 12 hours. You should end up with something like this when finished.



cheers
Jerad
 
J_K_S said:
Theres a cpl different methods. I prefer to cut hide away with knife. Then I boil the head in a cast iron pot (outside) until the flesh is cooked. Then most of the flesh comes off easier. After I get the bigger chunks off I will let the head sit in a pail of water for a cpl weeks letting the bacteria do most of the work. Final step is to bleach the skull by soaking it in 40% hydrogen peroxide for about 12 hours. You should end up with something like this when finished.



cheers
Jerad
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Thanks! Any particular reason you use a cast iron pot to cook it? I would be getting a new pot for this, and it would probably cheapest to find an old steel or aluminum pot at value village.

40% hydrogen peroxide eh? Where do I get that? The normal stuff at the pharmacy is only like 2% isnt it?
 
Try using compressed air to separate the hide from the coyote, make a small incision by the haunch (iirc) and put the needle portion in there.

In some areas Hutterites will skin coyotes for money. I think skinning in the field is not done often because it can decrease the quality of the hide, you will need to learn how to rack them as well, don't think I'm using the right word for that.
 
Suther said:
What is so gross about it? The smell??

My friend is a professional meat cutter, so he'll probably be doing that part.. But from what i gather the 270 doesn't leave the pelts in sell-able condition??? So its probably not worth my time and effort to skin, So Im wondering what my other options are for disposal? Im over an hour away from anywhere I can hunt, so I'd have to drive there and back a second time to dispose of the carcass - a 3-4 hour endeavor.
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Stink on a coyote will be nothing like anything he has ever encountered in a butcher shop...guaranteed...If I had the choice of gutting out ten gut shot deer or skinning one coyote, I'd take the deer every time.
 
fingers284 said:
Stink on a coyote will be nothing like anything he has ever encountered in a butcher shop...guaranteed...If I had the choice of gutting out ten gut shot deer or skinning one coyote, I'd take the deer every time.
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Well, I hope the stuff in the meat department doesn't stink! lol

My point was more that I wont have to deal with the stench as much because I wont be the one doing the skinning.

Also, Im still trying to determine if there is any value in the hide... Especially if shot with a 270.
 
The pot i use for boiling the head is a old cast iron pot. I suspend it over a barrel fire and find the weight of the pot helps steady it. I suggest getting any ol pot for CHEAP! Check a thrift store or something.You will not want to be anywhere near the pot as she boils. Just make sure to keep adding water to the pot as it boils. Try and keep the head submerged in the water.

You can get H202 at your local hydroponics shop. I think 39% is the strongest they sell. That stuff is CORROSIVE! So wear proper PPE when handling.

Cheers
Jerad
 
the bigger the rip & tear the more it will detract from the value, even a small .22 hole in the middle of the back will downgrade value by 1/2. That being said even a large wound won't totally devalue a hide but it will make it a case of "diminishing returns for the amount of work required". Really, I've found a small .22 entry hole in the forehead is the only wound that won't make much difference in what a hide buyer will pay.

When it comes right down to it, giving you a solid percentage wise answer is very tough as the quality of the hide before the wound will have a big effect on starting price with any fur. The starting price can depend on many factors such as size, fur color, hair quality (rubs or sunburn), hide color after drying, hide fleshing quality and a multitude of others that the buyer can dream up, and then the price diminishes from there in regards to wound placement & severity (they will spot a sew job a mile away).
Just know that a $80 dollar fur with a big rip or tear can be a $20 fur after a days work!!
 
meaning that a pelt without any damage could start out being worth $80 but the same pelt, with a big hole in it, would still only be worth $20 after doing all the work required to get it to the selling stage.

I should clarify by saying that a "big hole" in the fur buyers parlance starts at 2", depending on where it's at on the body...and with a big tear from the exit wound, you will also have an entrance wound, so a double wammy by their standards.

Not trying to change your mind about hunting yotes...it is very exiting to call one of those willy critters to within 20 ft or so, usually you don't know they are even coming, just all of a sudden they are there looking at you... just be aware of the shortfalls & disappointments of trying to finance a hobby with fur sales.
 
fingers284 said:
meaning that a pelt without any damage could start out being worth $80 but the same pelt, with a big hole in it, would still only be worth $20 after doing all the work required to get it to the selling stage.

I should clarify by saying that a "big hole" in the fur buyers parlance starts at 2", depending on where it's at on the body...and with a big tear from the exit wound, you will also have an entrance wound, so a double wammy by their standards.

Not trying to change your mind about hunting yotes...it is very exiting to call one of those willy critters to within 20 ft or so, usually you don't know they are even coming, just all of a sudden they are there looking at you... just be aware of the shortfalls & disappointments of trying to finance a hobby with fur sales.
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Can anyone comment on taking headshots? Does that help preserve the hides better than body shots? I hear the 270 has the potential to basically blow a coyote in half - at that point, is the hide worth anything?

Also can anyone suggest bullet choices for coyote in 270? It seems most people on the interwebs are suggesting to just use a standard deer bullet, because the varmint bullets have explosive results on game the size of coyote....
 
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