New to guns need suggestions for hunting guns

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I will be hunting deer and am limited to a shotgun for my area. I will also be hunting goose and turkeys. I dont know if there is a good all in one but I'm willing to get two guns to do the job.

I was thinking a riffled shotgun for deer with a scope and a pump is good (not semi). Need suggestions for types of shotgun, models and scopes that would work good. I am thinking of staying away from red-dot scopes due to having to keep on top of batteries, etc. I'm in Ontario so dealers is good too or prices for used ones.

For turkey and goose I have no idea, but probably want it light and short cause I expect to do a lot of walking with it. Will take suggestions.
 
Choose a brand and action you like within your price range, then pick a model with a 24" barrel and adjustable chokes. Get a low powered scope for shooting slugs with an improved cylder or a rifled choke, and use the bead for upland and migratory birds with the choke that best suits your shooting style and loads. This combination would be pretty hard to beat, and would be easier to manage than a multiple barrel system.
 
Stoeger 2000...comes in a synthetic (black) or camo and some have a slug barrel and field barrel combo set. Its an inertia action semi that is based on a benelli action and comes in 3" for chucking steel at geese. Its only drawback is that it doesn't like really light target loads....can be had for around $700 new

Other than that...you cant go wrong with the old "Belly Button" gun...Remington 870
 
I read a few of the other posts and I guess the 870 seems pretty much the standard to aim for. I'll check into that and willing to hear any other suggestions ;)
 
Is this the one? From sirs:

Remington 870 Express 3 ½” Super Magnum Shotguns: 28” VR Barrel - Laminated Wood Stock

You can’t find a better combination of versatility, economy and reliable performance than with the Remington 870 Express Super Magnum pump shotgun. They handle 2 ¾”, 3”, and 3 ½” 12 gauge shells interchangeably and are built on the proven Model 870 twin bar action. Available in synthetic, camo and new wood laminate versions. Weight 7 ½ lbs - 7 ¼ lbs depending on model and barrel length.

NEW Laminated Wood Stock with Matte Finish Barrel & Receiver

Cat. No. 440214 28” VR Barrel (Rem Choke-Modified Only Supplied)

Cat. No. 440214

Price: $ 409.99
 
3.5 in a fixed breech gun will shake your fillings loose...I would forgo the extra shell length for a 3" combo that comes with an extra barrel...rifled slug preferably.

Hey Chris, why no to semi?
 
dilly said:
3.5 in a fixed breech gun will shake your fillings loose...I would forgo the extra shell length for a 3" combo that comes with an extra barrel...rifled slug preferably.

Hey Chris, why no to semi?
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No particular reason, I guess I just dont think it's neccessary and wanted to keep things simple/on the cheaper side of things (figuring semi would be more expensive?). Is there an particular model on the SIR site that I should pick? I'm pretty gun stooopid right now so suggesting an exact gun is what I need more then anything ;) :) :) :)
 
This one doesnt come with a second barrel?

Stoeger Model 2000 12 Gauge Semi-Auto Camo Shotgun

The Stoeger Model 2000 offers a combination of excellent design, old-world craftsmanship and high style to the Canadian shotgunner. The heart of the gun is an inertia-recoil operating system offering unmatched reliability from 2 3/4" light target to heavy 3" waterfowl loads. There's no gas system to clean and vital moving parts are positioned inside the receiver. The reesult is unsurpassed reliability and lightning fast follow-up shots. The Model 2000 is fitted with a black synthetic stock and the 28" matte black barrel sports a ventilated rib with a high visibility front white bead sight. Five interchangeable choke tubes are supplied in Cyl, IC, Mod, IM and Full Overall Length 49 1/4" Weight 6.9 lbs.

Max 4 Camo finish.

Cat. No. 446003

Price: $ 679.99
 
If that's the case, go autoloader. This is my baby. I love this gun, and she treats me good.
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look around...I know stoeger was offering the 2000 with a spare slug barrel awhile back...my buddy missed out on the deal and bought one before it was offered and he was ticked
 
Pick on that fits you comfortably, and or can be easily worked on to fit you.

I have been reading some pretty interesting old books on shotguns, and the fitting part comes up as the number one issue quite abit.

Sadly most off the shelf shotguns are built to fit generally everyone and generally no one, but this is fixable, and is also different from one brand to another.

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=2113
 
I would start by looking into one of the Mossberg (500 and 535) or Rem 870 combos. Try both to see what fits you better, if neither one fits well, then start looking at others. I have a 500 Mossberg and Rookie has an 870, so you won't have any trouble trying both for fit. Regarding the scope, are you going to use it for deer only or both deer and turkey? This will make a difference in what scope would be best as well as wether to get a rifled barrel with the cantilever scope mount or without it.
 
If you are planning on turkey and waterfowl, I would not dismiss the options provided by a 3.5" chambering. You could use regular shells for 80% of the time but will consider the 3.5" option a saviour under certain conditions hunting turkey's and geese. I don't find the recoil too bad at all despite usually being sensitive to such things.

I have a Mossberg 835 combo with smoothbore and rifled barrel. I've only shot two slugs out of the latter, so I cannot speak authoritatively about that side of things, though it appears as though it would work fine on deer. All things considered, you should be fine with any of the Mossberg combos, the Remington 870s or the Stoeger.

Good Luck,

Frank
 
Workin Man said:
I would start by looking into one of the Mossberg (500 and 535) or Rem 870 combos. Try both to see what fits you better, if neither one fits well, then start looking at others. I have a 500 Mossberg and Rookie has an 870, so you won't have any trouble trying both for fit. Regarding the scope, are you going to use it for deer only or both deer and turkey? This will make a difference in what scope would be best as well as wether to get a rifled barrel with the cantilever scope mount or without it.
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Hey, I was wondering how long it would be before you found me lol. I still need to do my practical portion, they didn't have a tester available. Hopefully that goes over no problem. The written was a sinch.

But yeah, I would want a scope for sure for deer and possibly for turkey as well. Turkey prob not as important. I guess the biggest thing would be for me to not have to be re-sighting and fiddling all the time between seasons. I guess to basically be set minus a bit of tweaking at the start of each season. It's probably too much to ask for without getting a seperate gun for each animal hunted huh.
 
the Remington is the most durable pump shotgun. It is all steel, as opposed to the aluminum receivers used in some others. I would go for the combo, you don't need 3.5" except possibly for steel shot for long shots at ducks and geese. If that is the way it comes, you don't have to use 3.5" shells. Pumps are more forgiving of dirt and reloaded shells than autos. Unless you are going to use it for skeet or sporting clays I would stay with the pump.
 
If you get a rifled barrel with a cantilever scope mount, the scope stays attached to the barrel when you take it off so it should stay zero'd. You would have to use the factory bead for turkey or mount open sights on the barrel rib, then take them back off for waterfowl.

For the practical part of the test just remember to "prove" the gun each time you pick it up and when you put it down and you'll be fine. Kind of odd you didn't do both parts together though. Do you know when your going back to do the rest?
 
Workin Man said:
If you get a rifled barrel with a cantilever scope mount, the scope stays attached to the barrel when you take it off so it should stay zero'd. You would have to use the factory bead for turkey or mount open sights on the barrel rib, then take them back off for waterfowl.

For the practical part of the test just remember to "prove" the gun each time you pick it up and when you put it down and you'll be fine. Kind of odd you didn't do both parts together though. Do you know when your going back to do the rest?
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Yeah on Sunday. The examiner was double booked or something which was a mistake on his part. First time it every happened according to him. It apparently only takes about 10 minutes to do that part so it should be an in and out kinda thing.
 
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