New to precison rifles - looking for advice!

Have a look at Swedish CG63 Target Rifles on tradeexcanada.com. They are target rifles for $500 and they are chambered in 6.5x55 which is a very accurate caliber. Just put a scope on it.
 
If I had known that MOST (not all) remington sps rifles shot sub 1/2 moa, I would most defiantly be shooting one right now.




VLT79 said:
Who said it was the smallest group and why did you assume it was? That's one of the largest groups it shoots...with that particular load and with it it averages 0.893" @ 200 yds...yes for 5 shots. I never test anything at less than that so I have no what is does at 100yds nor do I care. Even high end rifles won't shoot all ammo with consistent accuracy...one load will do sub 0.250" and the next load will do no better than 0.750", granted the high end rifle will have less fluctuation in group size than a cheap rifle. As for the pic I posted the only reason I took and have that is because it was the first three shots I fired with that particular load. When developing I don't waste any more ammo than necessary...3 shots at that distance in that tight a cluster proved it was a match for that rifle...truth is I've been shooting it as is for 2 years and have yet to find the time to fine tune it and see if it can be improved...or even bother trying to find a better load with match quality components.

I have shot 6 different SPS Varmint rifles (2x.308 Win, 2x.223 Rem, 1x.22-250 Rem and 1x.17 Rem FB) and the worst one was still averaging 1.284" @ 200yds with it's favorite load...so although not 0.5 MOA or less it's still pretty damned impressive for an over the counter +/-$600 rifle with tuperware funiture!

At no point did OP ever specify the need for a sub 0.5" MOA rifle! And nowhere does it say that a "precision rifle" is by definition one that shoots sub 0.5" MOA. Now, because the OP asked for a "precision rifle" with a scope for less $1000, I suggested the SPS Varmint because in my experience you cannot find anything else in that price range that can compete with or compare to it. 6 out of 6 rifles I played with were sub-MOA...most flirting the half-MOA mark with their prefered loads! That's pretty good consistency in my books and highly doubtful that it was just a coincidence or a fluke!
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aheppner said:
If I had known that MOST (not all) remington sps rifles shot sub 1/2 moa, I would most defiantly be shooting one right now.
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Why??? If you can afford better from the get-go then it is wiser to go that route...even if there is no garranty that it will make you (speaking in general) a better shooter. What you spent now you won't have to spend in upgrades later on! Your rifle already has a great trigger and stock right out of the box. All it really needs is a proper bedding job and a little playing around with the action screw torque to find the sweet spot for the load you shoot.

To be fair...if we compare the entry level 10 FP-SR with the 700 SPS Varmint...I actually believe they (Savage) have a better barrel than Remington and with a properly adjusted accu-trigger (again better than what Remington offers) they are a little more consistent in group size, regardles of the load you choose, than the SPS Varmint ever will be. Both rifles will shoot Sub-MOA with prefered loads for dirt cheap! The only downside is that the 10 FP-SR is slightly more expensive and you have to sacrifice scope quality in order to stay under the $1000 mark...which is why I still recommend the 700...well that and you have more caliber options with the the 700.
 
Wow! This thread took a life of it's own!! Sorry!

Thanx to all for the ideas, I do appreciate it! I guess I will have to expand the budget a little to get where I want to be.

Is there a consensus that a 10X scope is the best result versus cost alternative?

I guess after all this I won't be able to blame the poor shooting on the rifle anymore!!

Cheers!
 
I've always like 10X fixed on rifles like the M1A/M14 and for simply making hits on gongs etc but for real precision rifles I find I am better served by something like an 8-32x56
 
Tomochan said:
I've always like 10X fixed on rifles like the M1A/M14 and for simply making hits on gongs etc but for real precision rifles I find I am better served by something like an 8-32x56
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I think that's good advice.

However, bang for buck, the 10x wins over pretty much anything.
 
The Bushnell 10x40 is an incredible scope for the money but as Tomochan said its not going to serve you well for serious precision work. At 100 yds theyre pretty good, glass is very good, tracking is rock solid but the magnification and parralax adjustment isnt there. That is going to hold you back at anything past 100 yds. Everyone has their preference but for the most part more magnification is better so long as the clarity is there. Banging gongs can be done at any range where you can still see them under the crosshairs but tiny groups are not going to happen at anything past 100 yds. Theyre great for new shooters because they eliminate the scope related issues that can cause unneccesary headaches and theyre great for LR plinking but for serious precision work Id be looking into something in the 6-24 range or more and spending as much as I could to get the best I can afford. At least thats how I would have done it if I had known better from the start.
 
Tomochan said:
Gunboy:

Raise Ya

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.... I think I may have just peed a little ...
 
One may argue that marines have been using 10x or 12x scopes for a great length of time with unquestionable success, you really just need to shoot a few different powers at multiple ranges to find out what works for you...then you can justify whatever price tag may come along with it, obviously "sub" unertl or s&b. best of luck
 
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