new to site. looking for 50BMG
- Thread starter darin.k
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.50 BMG rifles and ammo are expensive. Rifles start around 6 grand. Ammo runs around $10 per shot. Not many places to shoot 'em either.
Have a look here. http://www.albertatacticalrifle.com/index.html
Epp's is listing a used STEYR MANNLICHER at $5199.
Have a look here. http://www.albertatacticalrifle.com/index.html
Epp's is listing a used STEYR MANNLICHER at $5199.
Componants are around, however keep you eyes open, and your wallet out.
Brass is 1-2$ per, primers are 50-70$ per hundred, and projectiles vary, but good match grade will set you back $80.00 per 20.
Powder is around, ya got to look.
50 cal is a must to load for.
Regards
Brass is 1-2$ per, primers are 50-70$ per hundred, and projectiles vary, but good match grade will set you back $80.00 per 20.
Powder is around, ya got to look.
50 cal is a must to load for.
Regards
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- calgary alberta
We specialize in 50 cal. rifles. We build them as well as are the distributor for the AMSD Nemesis rifles. We stock ammo, brass, components and probably have more trigger time on a 50 than any other dealer.
As Obtunded mentions the 50s have cool factor galore, but are not terribly practical nor cheap to run. That being said I would not be without a few.
As Obtunded mentions the 50s have cool factor galore, but are not terribly practical nor cheap to run. That being said I would not be without a few.
+1 with what Obtunded said. I started into the long range game about 2 years ago and have come a long way from what I "thought" I new about long range sticks and the skill required. Not to mention the bank roll required to back such a hobby. Thank god I got a raise or I wouldn't be shooting at all! The point is that when I started I was seduced by the "cool factor" of a 50 and I thought I had to have one. I had the budget to buy the rifle and a decent scope but I didn't realize at the time what it actually costs to feed the damn thing. You can buy loaded ammo but at the cost that's just mathematically rediculous. So that means reloading. As said before, are you an experienced reloader? Because it only takes one small mistake to have one helluva mishap. If you are an experienced loader, do you have the proper setup? If you don't that's another $1000 to $1200 for .50BMG kit plus Dies. End point is that I didn't jump in head first and did some research. I took the money I was going to spend and started building a decent .308 and only used half of my .50 budget. After ACTUALLY learning how to shoot properly out to the distances I was aiming at, I realized that bench and prone shooting was more my thing and that buying a 50 would've been rediculous at the time. Now I'm working on a 6mmBR project.
Then again, if you own every rifle under the sun except a 50 and your bank account can afford such a beast then all the power to ya.
I that case a few off the top of head that can be "got" in Canada are:
-Steyr HS-50(most availabe)- $4900-$5200
-Alberta Tactical Rifle in Calgary can build you one-$6500(check out their website)
-Alberta Tactical Rifle website also shows the AMSD Nemesis- Looks like an amazing rig, but starts at $12500
-Armalite AR-50- ~$2500(I think)
-LAR Grizzly- $1200-$1400 US(I've heard of a few in Canada but never actually seen one)
-Barret line(99.9% positive the semi-auto is prohibited)-$$$$$$$$$
Then there is quite a few options of .50BMG AR-type upper to be fitted to a regular AR lower reciever. Problems here are:
-As soon as you attatch it to that lower it's now restricted hence limited to ranges only. Good luck finding a range where you can really stretch her legs(they're out there, just really scarce).
-Getting a .50 upper is usually the more inexpensive route if you lived the 'ol US of A but by the time you find a way to get it here you probably be around the range of $3000-$4000 for an Upper that was $2000 US(anyone here with more knowledge feel free to correct me on that as that is an educated guess from research 2 years ago).
- I have read about possible problems with the recoil of a .50 damaging a AR lower. Undoubtedly, this probably happened when someone tried to attatch a 50 AR-type upper to the cheapest AR-lower on the market. That means finding a good AR lower, which in Canada will run $800-&1200. So now with the cost, it only seems logical to get a dedicated .50 rifle and not an upper-lower combo. HOWERVER, Alberta Tactical Rifle is, I belive, developing a lower for a .50 upper that would be non-restricted. If that goes through, maybe more distrinutors would start to bring in .50 uppers which would in turn lower the cost which would make that a feasable option. If this actually happens, that will be the day I start looking at 50's again.
Obviously there are more people on this board who are more knowledgable on the subject than myself, but this is basically the information I found when doing my research on the subject a couple years ago.
I've never done it myself, but I can say with almost certainty that this question has been asked here before and a quick search may answer a few of your questions.
I appologize in adcance if any of my info is out-of-date or just down right wrong. Like I said, someone who eats, sleeps, and breathe's .50 will probably comment bellow me and fix any errors in my statements.
Good luck and happy shooting!
Edit: While I was typing this, the guy who eats, sleeps and breathe's .50's actually posted above me haha.
Then again, if you own every rifle under the sun except a 50 and your bank account can afford such a beast then all the power to ya.
I that case a few off the top of head that can be "got" in Canada are:
-Steyr HS-50(most availabe)- $4900-$5200
-Alberta Tactical Rifle in Calgary can build you one-$6500(check out their website)
-Alberta Tactical Rifle website also shows the AMSD Nemesis- Looks like an amazing rig, but starts at $12500
-Armalite AR-50- ~$2500(I think)
-LAR Grizzly- $1200-$1400 US(I've heard of a few in Canada but never actually seen one)
-Barret line(99.9% positive the semi-auto is prohibited)-$$$$$$$$$
Then there is quite a few options of .50BMG AR-type upper to be fitted to a regular AR lower reciever. Problems here are:
-As soon as you attatch it to that lower it's now restricted hence limited to ranges only. Good luck finding a range where you can really stretch her legs(they're out there, just really scarce).
-Getting a .50 upper is usually the more inexpensive route if you lived the 'ol US of A but by the time you find a way to get it here you probably be around the range of $3000-$4000 for an Upper that was $2000 US(anyone here with more knowledge feel free to correct me on that as that is an educated guess from research 2 years ago).
- I have read about possible problems with the recoil of a .50 damaging a AR lower. Undoubtedly, this probably happened when someone tried to attatch a 50 AR-type upper to the cheapest AR-lower on the market. That means finding a good AR lower, which in Canada will run $800-&1200. So now with the cost, it only seems logical to get a dedicated .50 rifle and not an upper-lower combo. HOWERVER, Alberta Tactical Rifle is, I belive, developing a lower for a .50 upper that would be non-restricted. If that goes through, maybe more distrinutors would start to bring in .50 uppers which would in turn lower the cost which would make that a feasable option. If this actually happens, that will be the day I start looking at 50's again.
Obviously there are more people on this board who are more knowledgable on the subject than myself, but this is basically the information I found when doing my research on the subject a couple years ago.
I've never done it myself, but I can say with almost certainty that this question has been asked here before and a quick search may answer a few of your questions.
I appologize in adcance if any of my info is out-of-date or just down right wrong. Like I said, someone who eats, sleeps, and breathe's .50 will probably comment bellow me and fix any errors in my statements.
Good luck and happy shooting!
Edit: While I was typing this, the guy who eats, sleeps and breathe's .50's actually posted above me haha.
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- calgary alberta
blueoval
We ARE now making non restricted lowers that will allow for the fitting of some of the 50 cal uppers that normally will fit an AR lower.
I got notification that our prototype has been inspected thoroughly and has been passes as NON restricted.
darin For long range shooting that is far more affordable, you may want to look at the bigger 338s, the rifle isn't much less $$ but feeding it sure is.
We ARE now making non restricted lowers that will allow for the fitting of some of the 50 cal uppers that normally will fit an AR lower.
I got notification that our prototype has been inspected thoroughly and has been passes as NON restricted.
darin For long range shooting that is far more affordable, you may want to look at the bigger 338s, the rifle isn't much less $$ but feeding it sure is.
NZClaybuster
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- Location
- Calgary, Alberta
I listened to a gentleman from California say that in the US the .50 was stastically the safest civilian owned firearm in the US. Never been a murder with one, never been an accidental shooting, never been a problem. Wish I could remember his name, but he and his wife both shot them. Couples that shoot together shouldn't be messed with.
Aaaaahhh, well thanks for clearing that up. I appologize. That's good to hear though. What uppers is it designed to fit? Tactilite? Bohica? Ferret?
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- calgary alberta
So far Safe Harbor and Ferret as that is all we have had. Others could be fitted as well I suspect, afterall there are only so many ways an AR can go together.
Warning ** Thread hijack **
The term silencer is in common useage by virtually all the professionals in that industry. The only people who make a big fuss about the preceived difference are those who have never laid eyes on the real thing.
Warning ** Thread hijack **
The term silencer is in common useage by virtually all the professionals in that industry. The only people who make a big fuss about the preceived difference are those who have never laid eyes on the real thing.
No firearm can be truly "silenced". You making a big fuss from a simple correction, while making mistakes in your post, make me laugh at how you think it matters that someone has seen the real thing or not for them to use the PROPER DAMN WORDS.
/gun/grammarnazi.
Now let's get back to talking about what matters, some nice guns.
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- calgary alberta
The biggest issue with the bigger calibers is getting components.
I have a 20x138B caliber Lahti and to shoot it is a rare occurance as casings and bullets are for all intents impossible to get.
I am looking into machining casings for my 20, projectiles can be turned easily from brass barstock. But at about $100.00 every time I pull the trigger going broke at the range is a real issue. There is another issue, the few places we can use them.
There are a few 14.5 floating around, but with the same problem, feeding them.
With everything over 50 cal in the US being "destructive device" classified therefore non exportable, and the Canadian demand microscopic for big stuff it is just not wise from a business standpoint to start down the road that is even more niche than where we already stand.
The people who make them and test them and use them all use the words "silencer" and "suppressor" interchangeably. Only mall ninja wannabee's go around telling people that Silencer is not the proper terminology because no gun can be completely silenced.
@Alberta Tactical Rifle
I see, I thought that might be the case. I just wanted something to top the collection off - the most long range gopher vaporizer ever.
Only mall ninja wannabes go around getting all butthurt and trying to make fun of some other wannabe mall ninja because when it comes down to technicalities, the latter is right and the former doesn't like hearing his heroes make some mistake.
Degradation starts small and snowballs into something that ends up sucking hard. Stop putting up with bad terminology, it just ends up costing you more than "looking like a mallninja".
I see, I thought that might be the case. I just wanted something to top the collection off - the most long range gopher vaporizer ever.
Only mall ninja wannabes go around getting all butthurt and trying to make fun of some other wannabe mall ninja because when it comes down to technicalities, the latter is right and the former doesn't like hearing his heroes make some mistake.
Degradation starts small and snowballs into something that ends up sucking hard. Stop putting up with bad terminology, it just ends up costing you more than "looking like a mallninja".
Silencer, Suppressor, who cares?
Ever single 50 I've actually seen in person (admittedly, not all that many, 5 maybe 6), has come equipped with a Loudener! First time I ever shot on the same line as a 50, the wind from his brake, was knocking stuff off of my bench, 12 feet away. I guess if we could own noise reducing devices, I might see them more, but for a 50, being shot by a civillian, his own comfort is likely the bigger factor, than annoying the guy on the next bench.
I know if I could afford a 50, I'd much rather a brake, than a noise reducer, even if they were legal.
To The OP: Check out the 6.5's, if you want precision without breaking your shoulder or wallet. 308 or heavy 223 are decent options as well. As awesome as 50's are, for the cost of a 5 shot group, you could have a whole day at the range with the other calibers.
Ever single 50 I've actually seen in person (admittedly, not all that many, 5 maybe 6), has come equipped with a Loudener! First time I ever shot on the same line as a 50, the wind from his brake, was knocking stuff off of my bench, 12 feet away. I guess if we could own noise reducing devices, I might see them more, but for a 50, being shot by a civillian, his own comfort is likely the bigger factor, than annoying the guy on the next bench.
I know if I could afford a 50, I'd much rather a brake, than a noise reducer, even if they were legal.
To The OP: Check out the 6.5's, if you want precision without breaking your shoulder or wallet. 308 or heavy 223 are decent options as well. As awesome as 50's are, for the cost of a 5 shot group, you could have a whole day at the range with the other calibers.
Good post Curtmg, however as a 50 owner/shooter my first and main concern has always been the other guy. On several occasions when the range was busy I left the 50 in the truck to shoot another day rather than annoy fellow shooters. Lifes too short to make enemies in my opinion.
And now, all of the ranges/clubs I belong to no longer allow 50 BMG as per the CPFO, so its either take it out in the "hills" which is much more fun than any range.....or wire it for electricity and make a beautiful 35 lb. lamp for the den.......
And now, all of the ranges/clubs I belong to no longer allow 50 BMG as per the CPFO, so its either take it out in the "hills" which is much more fun than any range.....or wire it for electricity and make a beautiful 35 lb. lamp for the den.......
Good post Curtmg, however as a 50 owner/shooter my first and main concern has always been the other guy. On several occasions when the range was busy I left the 50 in the truck to shoot another day rather than annoy fellow shooters. Lifes too short to make enemies in my opinion.
And now, all of the ranges/clubs I belong to no longer allow 50 BMG as per the CPFO, so its either take it out in the "hills" which is much more fun than any range.....or wire it for electricity and make a beautiful 35 lb. lamp for the den.......
If you let me shoot a round, you can do whatever you want, I'll smile all day. It really wasn't that bothersome, if it was, I'd have moved over. Was fun to watch guys taking shots on it.
